VP of Pfizer arrested after document dump

[bobabode]

1223 dead from the Pfizer vaccine? Seems like this should be frontpage news everywhere. So, a quick Google search of the author's name revealed that he's a Canadian rightwingnutter/ Trump supporter named Keean Bexte who has a somewhat sordid past.

Maybe others believe this unsupported crap but I'll take a hard pass. Thanks.

ps I've had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine and no ill effects.

[bobabode]

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[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by bobabode

1223 dead from the Pfizer vaccine? Seems like this should be frontpage news everywhere. So, a quick Google search of the author's name revealed that he's a Canadian rightwingnutter/ Trump supporter named Keean Bexte who has a somewhat sordid past.

Maybe others believe this unsupported crap but I'll take a hard pass. Thanks.

ps I've had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine and no ill effects.

I've had no vaccine and didn't do masks. I also had no ill effects.

But I'll add Two things:
1. I assumed this article was unreliable but...
2. I trust the sources more than I trust CNN.

Seriously.

I find the biggest differences between many of us here when we disagree is what sources we trust. Thanks to my sources, I fully expected the outcome we actually got - before they even went to trial - regarding Zimmerman and Rittenhouse. A lot of people couldn't say that. My sources seem pretty solid. Some of them, anyway. 🤣

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by bobabode

1223 dead from the Pfizer vaccine? Seems like this should be frontpage news everywhere.

Yes then maybe ppl wouldnt be trying to force us all to get this garbage!!

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dude111

Yes then maybe ppl wouldnt be trying to force us all to get this garbage!!

So you want made-up disinformation to be front page news?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Dude111

Yes then maybe ppl wouldnt be trying to force us all to get this garbage!!

Are you saying that the vaccine is garbage?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Are you saying that the vaccine is garbage?

1) The OP story is a satirical piece. It's not "disinformation" and it's not "fake news" as that term is currently used. Some of the stories in the Vancouver Times are funny when viewed as straight satire. This one, not so much.

2) The vaccine is not garbage. It was, however, oversold in terms of what it could and could not do.

I have one daughter with Asthma and my oldest was born with Down Syndrome. Both would be at heightened risk if infected, so we all got vaxxed because originally the vaccine was said to reduce the risk of infection AND transmission.

Subsequent studies, i,e,. Lancet October 2021, found little if any difference between the transmission rates of vaxxed versus non-vaxxed populations. This may have been due to the difference between the alpha and delta COVID variants, but some of the "fact-checking" sites were still quoting sources saying that transmission rates were reduced by getting vaxxed.

Still, it was/is worthwhile to get vaxxed to reduce the likelihood of contracting COVID.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

1) ... we all got vaxxed because originally the vaccine was said to reduce the risk of infection AND transmission.

Not true. Its clinical trials did not test for transmission and Pfizer never said it did. It was tested to see if it was safe and if it prevented disease (and it is and does) and that's what Pfizer said. This latest meme is yet another tempest in a teapot that just popped up in the last couple of weeks in the wingnut echo chamber.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ne-trial-noth/

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Not true.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ne-trial-noth/

Reasonable clarification of an important point.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Not true. Its clinical trials did not test for transmission and Pfizer never said it did. It was tested to see if it was safe and if it prevented disease (and it is and does) and that's what Pfizer said. This latest meme is yet another tempest in a teapot that just popped up in the last couple of weeks in the wingnut echo chamber.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ne-trial-noth/

Yes, the fact checkers are running around lately with this info. But a year or more ago, claims of the vax reducing transmission were all the rage:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...finds-n1280583

And here a fact checker is debunking a claim that the vax doesn't reduce transmission, beccause "healthcare experts" say that it does:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/6403678001/

"This is false information," Akiko Iwasaki, a professor of immunobiology and molecular, cellular and developmental biology at Yale University, said in an email. "Vaccines provide significant protection from 'getting it' – infection – and 'spreading it' – transmission – even against the delta variant."

Back then, this was one of a number of claims about COVID that the so-called experts got wrong. And when people did ask legit questions, people like you were right there to shout them down. Sometimes asking questions get the facts to come out eventually. I know that's troubling for you to hear, but it's true.