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Old 05-17-2023, 02:24 PM
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Hillary losing to Trump was political malpractice on her part.
That deserves an attaboy. Hillary was selected and not elected as the Dem nominee in 2016 and therein lies the real cause.
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Old 05-17-2023, 02:48 PM
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Donny and his little band of traitors are touting the Durham report as exonerating him. How long before his following here start repeating that nonsense?
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Old 05-17-2023, 03:39 PM
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Considering just how close the election was blaming Putin, let alone Comey, smells like a commie fish.
Considering how close the election was, anything anyone can name would probably flip the election if changed.
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Old 05-17-2023, 03:43 PM
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Considering how close the election was, anything anyone can name would probably flip the election if changed.
Probably not.
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Old 05-17-2023, 06:32 PM
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WTF? Special counsel Robert Mueller found no proof that President Donald Trump criminally colluded with Russia. No proof. Zip. Zero. Nada.


Good Lord!
Good lord! That's not what Mueller said. Mueller said he had not exonerated Trump. And he said that the Russians had clearly interfered in the 2016 election. And we all saw Trump in front of the cameras telling the Russians that they should go ahead and hack his opponent's email servers.
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Old 05-17-2023, 07:06 PM
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Good lord! That's not what Mueller said. Mueller said he had not exonerated Trump. And he said that the Russians had clearly interfered in the 2016 election. And we all saw Trump in front of the cameras telling the Russians that they should go ahead and hack his opponent's email servers.
Ol' Whell has those blinders screwed down tight. Poor soul...
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Old 05-17-2023, 07:59 PM
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Good lord! That's not what Mueller said. Mueller said he had not exonerated Trump. And he said that the Russians had clearly interfered in the 2016 election. And we all saw Trump in front of the cameras telling the Russians that they should go ahead and hack his opponent's email servers.
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Ol' Whell has those blinders screwed down tight. Poor soul...
Man, you guys insist on having your own facts. Its EXACTLY what the Mueller report said specific to Russian collusion, which was what the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was about, and Crossfire Hurricane is what the Durham report was about.

Don't want to take my word for it? Here:
Mueller Report Finds No Evidence Of Russian Collusion

As we've been discussing this hour, the special counsel did not find that President Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government - that according to a summary of the conclusions delivered by the - Attorney General William Barr to the Congress.

Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; AG Barr says evidence 'not sufficient' to prosecute

"(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

The crap about Mueller "not exonerating": that's media spin. The media has reported that Trump was not exonerated in his behavior by the Mueller report, and that Mueller and company simply found insufficient criminal evidence to prosecute.

The fact is that prosecutors - special, federal, or otherwise - have no ability in our legal system to exonerate the accused. In fact, the term "exonerated" is actually misused here. You can't be exonerated until you've been convicted.

But, since you brought it up, here's what Mueller did say:

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.
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Old 05-17-2023, 08:15 PM
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Man, you guys insist on having your own facts. Its EXACTLY what the Mueller report said specific to Russian collusion, which was what the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was about, and Crossfire Hurricane is what the Durham report was about.

Don't want to take my word for it? Here:
Mueller Report Finds No Evidence Of Russian Collusion

As we've been discussing this hour, the special counsel did not find that President Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government - that according to a summary of the conclusions delivered by the - Attorney General William Barr to the Congress.

Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; AG Barr says evidence 'not sufficient' to prosecute

"(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

The crap about Mueller "not exonerating": that's media spin. The media has reported that Trump was not exonerated in his behavior by the Mueller report, and that Mueller and company simply found insufficient criminal evidence to prosecute.

The fact is that prosecutors - special, federal, or otherwise - have no ability in our legal system to exonerate the accused. In fact, the term "exonerated" is actually misused here. You can't be exonerated until you've been convicted.

But, since you brought it up, here's what Mueller did say:

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.”

You are quoting the Bill Barr mischaracterization of the Mueller Report, something that Mueller himself rejected as misleading? Jeez. Not only did Bill Barr lie in his characterization of the Mueller Report, he followed up with the ridiculous Durham investigation for which he (and Durham) had already made up their minds that something nefarious occurred and tried in vain for 4 years and $6.5 million to prove it. They failed miserably except to provide a rational for wingnuts like you to paint Trump as a victim and not the criminal that he is.

You sure do invest a lot of emotional energy trying to convince yourself (and others) that Trump isn't a lawless traitor to America and its ideals. It's a fool's errand.
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Old 05-17-2023, 08:51 PM
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Man, you guys insist on having your own facts. Its EXACTLY what the Mueller report said specific to Russian collusion, which was what the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was about, and Crossfire Hurricane is what the Durham report was about.

Don't want to take my word for it? Here:
Mueller Report Finds No Evidence Of Russian Collusion

As we've been discussing this hour, the special counsel did not find that President Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government - that according to a summary of the conclusions delivered by the - Attorney General William Barr to the Congress.

Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; AG Barr says evidence 'not sufficient' to prosecute

"(T)he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

The crap about Mueller "not exonerating": that's media spin. The media has reported that Trump was not exonerated in his behavior by the Mueller report, and that Mueller and company simply found insufficient criminal evidence to prosecute.

The fact is that prosecutors - special, federal, or otherwise - have no ability in our legal system to exonerate the accused. In fact, the term "exonerated" is actually misused here. You can't be exonerated until you've been convicted.

But, since you brought it up, here's what Mueller did say:

“We did not address ‘collusion,’ which is not a legal term,” Mueller added. “Rather, we focused on whether the evidence was sufficient to charge any member of the campaign with taking part in a criminal conspiracy. It was not.
Speaking of "spin", don't you ever get dizzy? smh
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Old 05-18-2023, 03:17 AM
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I love how tRump' supporters on the Reich, er right use the "C" word (collusion) every chance they get. Mueller's investigation found evidence that Trump's campaign did coordinate with the Russians so maybe they're just trying to wallpaper over that. They also don't answer the question of if Donny was so squeaky clean why did he interfere in the investigation so much.
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