Speaking of governors...

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Go Union! A pox on anyone who says otherwise.

Pox reminds me of measles which is another subject that has gotten under my skin lately.

What a big freakin' deal that some parents choose not to get their kids rubella and/or measles vaccination.

You can't find a damned doctor in this country that can think independently. It's a joke. This is not polio we are talking about.

Let's face it, the real danger is to the pockets of the non working investor class.

If you can't compel 300 million to purchase a product you own...

[icenine]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Pox reminds me of measles which is another subject that has gotten under my skin lately.

What a big freakin' deal that some parents choose not to get their kids rubella and/or measles vaccination.

You can't find a damned doctor in this country that can think independently. It's a joke. This is not polio we are talking about.

Let's face it, the real danger is to the pockets of the non working investor class.

If you can't compel 300 million to purchase a product you own...

You can die from measles. A parent who does not get their kids vaccinated is just stupid.
And dumb. And selfish. The same type of person who thinks they should be able to go to
Starbucks with an AK-47 slung over their shoulder for a Sunday morning latte.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by icenine

You can die from measles. A parent who does not get their kids vaccinated is just stupid.
And dumb. And selfish. The same type of person who thinks they should be able to go to
Starbucks with an AK-47 slung over their shoulder for a Sunday morning latte.

Ayup. Two wingnuts of the same bird. Getcher lil' germwagons vaccinated or keep 'em in the house and away from the rest of society.

signed a childless loser.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Ayup. Two wingnuts of the same bird. Getcher lil' germwagons vaccinated or keep 'em in the house and away from the rest of society.

signed a childless loser.

I think one reason why people do not do this is because we have been so successful in eradicating bad disease via vaccination no one is reminded of them. If people went around and saw victims of polio at the store or in their schools they would shut the fuck up and get vaccinated. Some parents need a little vacation in the developing word to open their eyes.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think one reason why people do not do this is because we have been so successful in eradicating bad disease via vaccination no one is reminded of them. If people went around and saw victims of polio at the store or in their schools they would shut the fuck up and get vaccinated. Some parents need a little vacation in the developing word to open their eyes.

who is refusing polio vaccine?

maybe post honestly?

just a thought

[icenine]

Originally Posted by noonereal

who is refusing polio vaccine?

maybe post honestly?

just a thought

I am just saying people would not question vaccines period it they saw the effects of disease everyday when out and about. An adult with a weakened immune system would be in trouble if they caught the measles. You seem to question the need for measles or other vaccines.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think one reason why people do not do this is because we have been so successful in eradicating bad disease via vaccination no one is reminded of them. If people went around and saw victims of polio at the store or in their schools they would shut the fuck up and get vaccinated. Some parents need a little vacation in the developing word to open their eyes.

The only reasons for this vaccination idiocy happening are ignorance, superstition, and religiosity. My kid is autistic because of the vaccination. Bullshit...your kid is autistic, we have increasing numbers of kids with autism for the same reason we have the deluge of auto-immune disorders in recent times. The environment is toxic, and getting more toxic day by day. And not just exposure to specific toxins during pregnancy...but general exposure to an increasingly toxic environment. But it's civilization, y'know? We need oil, electricity, high speed transportation, plastic stuff, and all the gear for our web surfing and music listening pleasure. So the environment will get more toxic and we'll have more autism and auto-immune disorders and more ISIS maniacs lopping the heads off non-ISIS maniacs until everybody decides to become an ISIS maniac.

Because the human race are locusts. Locusts with intelligence, civilization and technology. The planet will survive just fine...the locusts won't.

Thus endeth the rant.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/science...ism-initiative

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The only reasons for this vaccination idiocy happening are ignorance, superstition, and religiosity.

And Thimerosal.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

And Thimerosal.

Bull fucking hockey. After years of debate, testing, data collection and rigorous analysis of the data...there is no correlation between childhood vaccinations and autism or anything else other than a little red spot at the injection site.

Thimerosal

Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines.

Thimerosal is a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines and other products since the 1930's. There is no convincing evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure.
Vaccines and Thimerosal

CDC Study on "Prenatal and Infant Exposure to Thimerosal from Vaccines and Immunoglobins and Risk of Autism" (2010)
CDC Study on "Infant and Environmental Exposures to Thimerosal and Neuropsychological Outcomes at Ages 7 to 10 Years" (2007)
CDC Studies on Vaccines and Autism Adobe PDF file [PDF - 316 KB]
Frequently Asked Questions about Thimerosal
Timeline: Thimerosal in Vaccines (1999-2010)

Related Research

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Recommendations regarding the use of vaccines that contain thimerosal as a preservative. MMWR 1999:48(43);996-998.

McMahon AW, Iskander JK, Haber P, Braun MM, Ball R. Inactivated influenza vaccine (IIV) in children < 2 years of age: Examination of selected adverse events reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) after thimerosal-free or thimerosal-containing vaccine.External Web Site Icon Vaccine 2008;26(3):427–429.

Thompson WW, Price C, Goodson B, Shay DK, Benson P, Hinrichsen VL, Lewis E, Eriksen E, Ray P, Marcy SM, Dunn J, Jackson LA, Lieu TA, Black S, Stewart G, Weintraub ES, Davis RL, DeStefano F; Vaccine Safety Datalink Team. Early thimerosal exposure and neuropsychological outcomes at 7 to 10 years.External Web Site Icon New England Journal of Medicine 2007;357(13):1281–1292.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/thimerosal/

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The only reasons for this vaccination idiocy happening are ignorance, superstition, and religiosity. My kid is autistic because of the vaccination. Bullshit...your kid is autistic, we have increasing numbers of kids with autism for the same reason we have the deluge of auto-immune disorders in recent times. The environment is toxic, and getting more toxic day by day. And not just exposure to specific toxins during pregnancy...but general exposure to an increasingly toxic environment. But it's civilization, y'know? We need oil, electricity, high speed transportation, plastic stuff, and all the gear for our web surfing and music listening pleasure. So the environment will get more toxic and we'll have more autism and auto-immune disorders and more ISIS maniacs lopping the heads off non-ISIS maniacs until everybody decides to become an ISIS maniac.

Because the human race are locusts. Locusts with intelligence, civilization and technology. The planet will survive just fine...the locusts won't.

Thus endeth the rant.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/science...ism-initiative

Your locust metaphor reminds me of that old British science fiction-horror movie called Five Million Years To Earth...the ancient Martian invaders found buried in their spaceship in the Tube stations looked like grasshoppers lol.