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07-18-2010, 11:56 PM
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Iran is a country that has been attacked and invaded, what 5 times in the past century? Most every time the US or Britain has been either directly or indirectly involved in it.
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Well, twice. The Brits and the Soviets invaded during WWII and Iraq invaded in 1980. That being said, it's fair to say that the West has been able to interfere with Iraq without actually invading it. Take, for example, Kermit Roosevelt's little caper in the '50s and our ginning up of a low level insurgency there right now.
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03-08-2010, 09:59 AM
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Big fenced-in compounds w/rows 'n' rows of "Modular housing" ?!?
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03-09-2010, 03:50 AM
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Well, boys, ya gotta KNOW all dese tings when you're a KOOK-Keeper Of Odd Knowlege- you know... An' Dave...Shhhhhh...We were just gettin' to THAT....
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07-19-2010, 03:47 AM
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And we wonder why they're pissed?
That's like long-term picking on the poor kid down the street, whose neighbor (9/11) actually swings on you because you're being an ass, then using that as pretext to go ahead and take the first kid's toys: in everyone's "best interest." (Which, of course, it hasn't turned out to be.)
Some, might believe that we just wanted the toys...
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07-19-2010, 07:28 AM
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Ah yes, those poor downtrodden Iranians, such civilized noble folk, why they even decided that they would refrain (for the moment) from stoning that woman to death because (they say) she made out with someone. Oddly enough the someone is not on the stoning list. Bombing them into the stone age would actually be bringing them forward.
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07-19-2010, 09:13 AM
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Personally, I have a hard time seeing Iran as a total victim. There is little doubt in my mind that they have a hand in promoting anti-Western terrorism. Very little.
I think the whole mess started 1,300 years ago when the Muslims threw the Jews out of Israel. That, and the fact that people just can't seem to leave their religious beliefs out of government are why we're still fighting each other today.
If people would learn to,
A) Let go of the past and move on.
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B) Keep their religious beliefs inside the church/temple/mosque and NOT insist that governments enforce religious dogmas..............
Can you imagine?
Dave
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07-19-2010, 09:35 AM
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Can you imagine?
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No. I think religion is largely used by the political class as a rallying tool. Why would they ditch a tool that has been so effective over the years?
Could you actually imagine the GOP severing ties completely with the Religious Right? Hell, it's their base for God's sake (pun intended).
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07-19-2010, 09:40 AM
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No. I think religion is largely used by the political class as a rallying tool. Why would they ditch a tool that has been so effective over the years?
Could you actually imagine the GOP severing ties completely with the Religious Right? Hell, it's their base for God's sake (pun intended).
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I know. That's my whole point, Finn.
Dave
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07-19-2010, 10:35 AM
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I know. That's my whole point, Finn.
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I knew that. I was emphasizing the point for those that are nuance-challenged.
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07-19-2010, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
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I knew that. I was emphasizing the point for those that are nuance-challenged.
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Is that French?
I hate French.
John
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