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02-20-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Trump doesn't need a formal declaration of war according to the cited article.
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The article is about tariffs and Mexico, not Afghanistan.
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02-20-2017, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
The article is about tariffs and Mexico, not Afghanistan.
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You should read the article.
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02-20-2017, 07:18 PM
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You should read the article.
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I did when ice referenced it and pretty sure Afghanistan wasn't mentioned, but I'll revisit it and check.
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02-20-2017, 07:31 PM
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I did when ice referenced it and pretty sure Afghanistan wasn't mentioned, but I'll revisit it and check.
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See Rajoo's response above. He gets it.
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02-20-2017, 07:56 PM
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See Rajoo's response above.
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I did and most of his post was a quote of the article which I just reread and it mentions Mexico, China, Syria, Libya, Nicaragua, Panama, Sierra Leone and Somalia, but not Afghanistan. It also points out that US special forces in Syria and Libya would the conflicts that would give him tariff raising authority.
If you read all of post 4 and note that in post 3 ice said "I am sure there would be court battles" followed by the article, which is the post I was responding to, you may see that I was pointing out Mexico is very different the other countries past Presidents have used these laws as a basis to raise tariffs. I think this is why Trump will have a very difficult time implementing his punitive tariffs against Mexico and why I thought ice made the point quoted above.
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02-20-2017, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
I did and most of his post was a quote of the article which I just reread and it mentions Mexico, China, Syria, Libya, Nicaragua, Panama, Sierra Leone and Somalia, but not Afghanistan. It also points out that US special forces in Syria and Libya would the conflicts that would give him tariff raising authority.
If you read all of post 4 and note that in post 3 ice said "I am sure there would be court battles" followed by the article, which is the post I was responding to, you may see that I was pointing out Mexico is very different the other countries past Presidents have used these laws as a basis to raise tariffs. I think this is why Trump will have a very difficult time implementing his punitive tariffs against Mexico and why I thought ice made the point quoted above.
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The point is it does not matter what country we are at war with Trump can still use the Afghanistan war as excuse to raise tariffs on Mexico, as he can Syria or the war against ISIS.
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02-20-2017, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
If one ignores Post #9, then rest of the posts dovetail into one another.
So Trump can pick any country we are at war with to justify tariffs, Congress does not need to declare a war and then he can pick any nation to impose any amount of tariffs for five months. Am I correct?
But he won't because Mexico can shut down certain sectors of the US economy, so this will remain just a threat.
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I fully concur. Although I would say in conflict with. In addition, it seems Nixon using the long over Korean conflict was stretching it. Maybe the Trade Act of 1974 addressed this.
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