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04-10-2016, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
In short the Democratic establishment feels more comfortable right now with Hillary than Bernie and only a big victory in New York and California might shake them. I am confident that those two things probably won't happen.
I am sure you would not complain about super delegates if Bernie started to get them.
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Don't be.
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04-10-2016, 11:46 AM
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I know you are upset about the super delegate thing but Obama did the same thing to Hillary in 2008.
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Sorry Dude, but that's wrong.
The truth is Hillary started out with a big superdelegate lead over Obama just like she has over Bernie. She lost it when it became apparent that Obama was cleaning her clock in the primaries.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...te-switcharoos
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The Guardian reported in February 2008:
Hillary Clinton is starting to lose her overwhelming lead with super-delegates, the Democratic party officials whose votes she is counting on to help her close the gap with Barack Obama.
Obama has received a steady flow of new backers in recent days while building a streak of 11 straight primary victories.
[...] Most unnerving for Clinton is the trickle of super-delegates who have defected from her corner to Obama's.
[...] Super-delegates who represent areas won by Obama are facing pressure to declare for him. One Clinton super-delegate, Texas congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, said colleagues had urged her to support Obama if he wins her district in the primary.
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04-10-2016, 11:48 AM
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Don't be.
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I am. I am sort of at the I don't care stage right now events are beyond my control.
I just got mad because Sanders started to equate Hillary with Bush and the neo-cons.
I have been pretty easy on Sanders. I just don't think he can deliver on single payer and even if he breaks up Wall Street it will just result in smaller banks that over time will re-consolidate into bigger ones again. Plus there could be disruptions once he starts to break them up in both New York and on the stock exchange.
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04-10-2016, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Sorry Dude, but that's wrong.
The truth is Hillary started out with a big superdelegate lead over Obama just like she has over Bernie. She lost it when it became apparent that Obama was cleaning her clock in the primaries.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...te-switcharoos
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Bernie hasn't been exactly cleaning her clock. You forget Ohio and some other big states.
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04-10-2016, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Bernie hasn't been exactly cleaning her clock. You forget Ohio and some other big states.
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He has to win New York, I'll give you that.
If he can win there, that will be a game changer IMO.
Hillary considers herself to be entitled to the Presidency.
She is livid with rage that someone has had the temerity to challenge her.
You can see it in her face, hear it in her voice, and read it in her body language.
It's building up like Krakatoa right under the surface.
If she loses New York I think she will blow and have a major meltdown in public which will get recorded and go viral on youtube wth 86 million views in the first 24 hours, thus driving a stake through the heart of her campaign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETzJ...&nohtml5=False
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04-10-2016, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
He has to win New York, I'll give you that.
If he can win there, that will be a game changer IMO.
Hillary considers herself to be entitled to the Presidency.
She is livid with rage that someone has had the temerity to challenge her.
You can see it in her face, hear it in her voice, and read it in her body language.
It's building up like Krakatoa right under the surface.
If she loses New York I think she will blow and have a major meltdown in public which will get recorded and go viral on youtube wth 86 million views in the first 24 hours, thus driving a stake through the heart of her campaign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETzJ...&nohtml5=False
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That's funny. She seems cool, calm and in charge to me. Go figure.
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04-11-2016, 07:20 PM
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Well no, because Clinton somehow gets "super delegates" she actually gets; 11 delegates and Sanders only gets 7.
Even though Sanders won the state.
See why I think politics in this country stink to high heaven?
Fuck the will of the people, the democrats are going to install whoever they fucking want.
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04-12-2016, 08:43 AM
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Indeed Tom, why even vote? Talk about a complete waste of time. The top democrat and republican rulers are going to pick our next president and fuck the will of the people. The party rulers have set "rules" in place to do so and the puppets, the american voters, like a bunch of goddamn sheep will follow the rules without question, comment or even a whisper of protest.
Yes, I did note the reaction here on this board when I pointed out this bullshit. Nothing...fucking crickets. Nobody cared because "those are the rules". Who makes the rules? The party rulers. Just like they do in any communist country in the world.
Thank you Tom..... and people wonder why we are angry as the founding principles of this country are thrown in the trash. As we "pretend" to be a free country with some sort of democracy.
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04-12-2016, 09:33 AM
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The local channel is rerunning the Defiance period of Scandal, about a stolen election.
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04-12-2016, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MrPots
Yes, I did note the reaction here on this board when I pointed out this bullshit. Nothing...fucking crickets. Nobody cared because "those are the rules". Who makes the rules? The party rulers. Just like they do in any communist country in the world.
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Uh, then you must have missed some of my and others' recent posts. You're hardly alone in being fed up with this bullsh*t.
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