Reparations anyone?

[Oerets]

First sorry if tackled somewhere else.
For I missed it if so.

The topic of Reparation to ancestors of former slaves.

My feeling is sure something needs to be done for the actions of the past.

There are a few countries and families fortunes made off their labor and suffering. The countries and fortunes are still around today and should be held responsible.

Now as to just the how?

Paying out a one time payment or similar program would not help all effected today by inequality. Feel some programs to help all segments of our society. Bring up all schools to a equal standing and proper funding. Programs to develop economically depressed areas. By the companies who benefited from others. Affordable housing with ownership.

Give people a good education, job and homes would go along way to build wealth for future generations. Give a sense of pride and inclusion.

That is a more permanent solution it would seem. Rather then a check and done.

For when one thinks about inequality it effects all races and ethnic groups. So to keep from further unrest and what about me? Doing a program to help all seems to me the path forward.


For the people are here to stay.

Best to include them in the American dream.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Oerets

First sorry if tackled somewhere else.
For I missed it if so.

The topic of Reparation to ancestors of former slaves.

My feeling is sure something needs to be done for the actions of the past.

There are a few countries and families fortunes made off their labor and suffering. The countries and fortunes are still around today and should be held responsible.

Now as to just the how?

Paying out a one time payment or similar program would not help all effected today by inequality. Feel some programs to help all segments of our society. Bring up all schools to a equal standing and proper funding. Programs to develop economically depressed areas. By the companies who benefited from others. Affordable housing with ownership.

Give people a good education, job and homes would go along way to build wealth for future generations. Give a sense of pride and inclusion.

That is a more permanent solution it would seem. Rather then a check and done.

For when one thinks about inequality it effects all races and ethnic groups. So to keep from further unrest and what about me? Doing a program to help all seems to me the path forward.


For the people are here to stay.

Best to include them in the American dream.

Redistribute the ridiculously huge fortunes. Your ideas about building a more equal society are great. Bunch more so*ialism in the mix, but keep capitalism going too (with a lot more responsibility enforced). Germany and the Scandinavians are the model.

Regarding the huge fortunes, has everyone seen this:
Wealth Shown to Scale

[Not Insane]

The sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of lives to free the slaves is more than reparations enough.

If they want more than that, they can knock on the doors of those that enslaved them in the first place - the Democrats. For all intents and purposes, the civil war was not north vs south. It was Republican vs Democrat.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

The sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of lives to free the slaves is more than reparations enough.

If they want more than that, they can knock on the doors of those that enslaved them in the first place - the Democrats. For all intents and purposes, the civil war was not north vs south. It was Republican vs Democrat.

First paragraph reflects my sentiments.

In 1860 the Democratic party split at the Wigwam. Blaming the Civil War on the Democrats because the party split into N/S rump parties doesn't really fly though because you do not know how the election would have turned out if it hadn't split. It was Slaveocracy hot heads who caused this split and based on your logic they caused the Civil War.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

The sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of lives to free the slaves is more than reparations enough.

If they want more than that, they can knock on the doors of those that enslaved them in the first place - the Democrats. For all intents and purposes, the civil war was not north vs south. It was Republican vs Democrat.

Name magic. Modern Democrats share nothing with the pre-civil war party of 160 years ago..

Redistribute! Could do a world-transforming program and still leave the 400 richest Americans with 1.5 billion each.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Name magic. Modern Democrats share nothing with the pre-civil war party of 160 years ago.

Good point.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Name magic. Modern Democrats share nothing with the pre-civil war party of 160 years ago..

Redistribute! Could do a world-transforming program and still leave the 400 richest Americans with 1.5 billion each.

No wonder we are tearing down all their statues.

Regardin redistribution as you are presenting it. the first step, of course, will be to gut the constitution. Good luck with that.

Reparations always has been and always will be a non-starter. It's just a fun thing to talk about. It sounds interesting until you get down to the mechanics of it. Then the lunacy becomes apparent.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Name magic. Modern Democrats share nothing with the pre-civil war party of 160 years ago..

Redistribute! Could do a world-transforming program and still leave the 400 richest Americans with 1.5 billion each.

If it would have all been taxed properly, as it was pre-Reagan , we wouldn't need to be having this discussion. The post WWII to JFK term tax rates were the highest in history and arguably the best economy our country ever saw.

Sorry to drift off topic, just a timing thing.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Name magic. Modern Democrats share nothing with the pre-civil war party of 160 years ago..

It sounds like you don't think modern democrats should be held accountable for what Democrats did 160 years ago. It begs the question, then: Why would you be in favor of the ones today paying reparations?

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

It sounds like you don't think modern democrats should be held accountable for what Democrats did 160 years ago. It begs the question, then: Why would you be in favor of the ones today paying reparations?

Won't speak for DQ, but generally speaking it's WAG, the kind the lets one feel better about oneself.