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06-15-2018, 03:35 PM
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Sounds like WaPo's spin on this is fake news. Seems more like he was let go as part of the cost-cutting that's going on in news rooms all over the country:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ro...ium%3Dsharebar
Burris told the Post-Gazette that Rogers was offered a deal in which he would be an independent contractor, producing two op-ed-page cartoons a week and his weekly strip.
“We tried hard to find a middle way, an accommodation to keep him the paper,” Burris said. He also said, “For an in-house staff cartoonist, editing is part of it. Rob’s view was, ‘Take it or leave it.’ ”
Rather, it looks like folks are working pretty hard to try to make this story something that it's probably not:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/po...-20180608.html
“It doesn’t take much to connect the dots between the absence of Rob’s left-leaning cartoons and the recent arrival of a Trump-supporting editorial page editor,” the American Association of Editorial Cartoonists said in a statement. “The editorial pages are a public forum, not a members-only private resort in Florida.”
Sounds like what a lot of opinion - writers at WaPo and elsewhere are doing" connecting the dots with their imaginations when there aren't enough facts to do so.
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06-15-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Sounds like WaPo's spin on this is fake news. Seems more like he was let go as part of the cost-cutting that's going on in news rooms all over the country:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ro...ium%3Dsharebar
Burris told the Post-Gazette that Rogers was offered a deal in which he would be an independent contractor, producing two op-ed-page cartoons a week and his weekly strip.
“We tried hard to find a middle way, an accommodation to keep him the paper,” Burris said. He also said, “For an in-house staff cartoonist, editing is part of it. Rob’s view was, ‘Take it or leave it.’ ”
Rather, it looks like folks are working pretty hard to try to make this story something that it's probably not:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/po...-20180608.html
“It doesn’t take much to connect the dots between the absence of Rob’s left-leaning cartoons and the recent arrival of a Trump-supporting editorial page editor,” the American Association of Editorial Cartoonists said in a statement. “The editorial pages are a public forum, not a members-only private resort in Florida.”
Sounds like what a lot of opinion - writers at WaPo and elsewhere are doing" connecting the dots with their imaginations when there aren't enough facts to do so.
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Why wasn't this cartoon published?
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06-15-2018, 05:13 PM
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Sounds like WaPo's spin on this is fake news. Seems more like he was let go as part of the cost-cutting that's going on in news rooms all over the country...
Sounds like what a lot of opinion - writers at WaPo and elsewhere are doing" connecting the dots with their imaginations when there aren't enough facts to do so.
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06-15-2018, 07:11 PM
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Sounds like WaPo's spin on this is fake news. Seems more like he was let go as part of the cost-cutting that's going on in news rooms all over the country:
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Here is a column from the man himself.
But wait! could it be Fake News from the failing New York Times
I Was Fired for Making Fun of Trump
By Rob Rogers
June 15, 2018
Mr. Rogers joined The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette as an editorial cartoonist in 1993. He worked there until this week. In 1999, he was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.
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After 25 years as the editorial cartoonist for The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, I was fired on Thursday.
I blame Donald Trump.
Well, sort of.
I should’ve seen it coming. When I had lunch with my new boss a few months ago, he informed me that the paper’s publisher believed that the editorial cartoonist was akin to an editorial writer, and that his views should reflect the philosophy of the newspaper.
That was a new one to me.
I was trained in a tradition in which editorial cartoonists are the live wires of a publication — as one former colleague put it, the “constant irritant.” Our job is to provoke readers in a way words alone can’t. Cartoonists are not illustrators for a publisher’s politics.
When I was hired in 1993, The Post-Gazette was the liberal newspaper in town, but it always prided itself on being a forum for a lot of divergent ideas. The change in the paper did not happen overnight. From what I remember, it started in 2011, with the endorsement of the Republican candidate for Pennsylvania governor, which shocked a majority of our readership. The next big moment happened in late 2015, when my longtime boss, the editorial page editor, took a buyout after the publisher indicated that the paper might endorse Mr. Trump. Then, early this year, we published openly racist editorials.
Things really changed for me in March, when management decided that my cartoons about the president were “too angry” and said I was “obsessed with Trump.” This about a president who has declared the free press one of the greatest threats to our country.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/o...l-right-region
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06-15-2018, 07:26 PM
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Sounds like WaPo's spin on this is fake news.
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It's funny how Trump and his lemmings have now become the snowflakes you once held in such utter disdain. No one dare speak the uncomfortable truth about your Dear Leader without you throwing a hissy fit.
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06-15-2018, 07:19 PM
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Yes, besides knowing absolutely nothing about journalism, Whell once again proves himself to be a complete ass.
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06-16-2018, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
Here is a column from the man himself.
But wait! could it be Fake News from the failing New York Times
I Was Fired for Making Fun of Trump
By Rob Rogers
June 15, 2018
Mr. Rogers joined The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette as an editorial cartoonist in 1993. He worked there until this week. In 1999, he was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/o...l-right-region
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Yes, besides knowing absolutely nothing about journalism, Whell once again proves himself to be a complete ass.
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So, a lefty cartoonist wants to blame Trump for his termination. There's no evidence to back up his claims, other than his public statements. His public statements are at odds with the public statements of his employer. I point this out, and I'm an ass. And then some of the other fact challenged folks here pile on with posts that, while they agree with statements about me, make no effort at all to dispute the fact that the public statements of the paper are at odds with the public statements of the cartoonist.
How sycophantic of y'all.
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06-16-2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
So, a lefty cartoonist wants to blame Trump for his termination. There's no evidence to back up his claims, other than his public statements. His public statements are at odds with the public statements of his employer. I point this out, and I'm an ass. And then some of the other fact challenged folks here pile on with posts that, while they agree with statements about me, make no effort at all to dispute the fact that the public statements of the paper are at odds with the public statements of the cartoonist.
How sycophantic of y'all.
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06-16-2018, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
So, a lefty cartoonist wants to blame Trump for his termination. There's no evidence to back up his claims, other than his public statements. His public statements are at odds with the public statements of his employer. I point this out, and I'm an ass. And then some of the other fact challenged folks here pile on with posts that, while they agree with statements about me, make no effort at all to dispute the fact that the public statements of the paper are at odds with the public statements of the cartoonist.
How sycophantic of y'all.
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Since you have labelled the cartoonist Rob Rogers as a lefty, he has called himself a liberal btw, how would you label the management?
Pro-Trump, Never Trump or are they independents?
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06-17-2018, 07:55 AM
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Since you have labelled the cartoonist Rob Rogers as a lefty, he has called himself a liberal btw, how would you label the management?
Pro-Trump, Never Trump or are they independents?
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I didn't "label" anyone, and once again you didn't bother to read the info I provided:
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/po...-20180608.html
Rogers, a Philadelphia native who at one time contributed cartoons to the Inquirer, has been the Post-Gazette’s staff cartoonist since 1993. (Editor’s note: Tornoe is also a cartoonist, but hasn’t worked with Rogers.) In that time, the left-leaning cartoonist has skewered all sorts of politicians, both Democrat and Republican.
If you don't bother to educate yourself before you post comments, then you're doomed to ignorance...and fact - deprived posts.
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