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06-05-2015, 09:57 AM
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LeyPerro, how does the constitution support the notion that corporations are people thus extending the 1A rights to corporations under Citizens United. I know I am over simplifying it but one should get my point.
Name dropping and misdirected insults are not good tools for an intelligent or even a semi-intelligent discussion. You do have a penchant of bringing up the least respected people in your arguments; or are people Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas just to camouflage your true feelings on racism?
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06-05-2015, 10:37 AM
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LeyPerro, how does the constitution support the notion that corporations are people thus extending the 1A rights to corporations under Citizens United. I know I am over simplifying it but one should get my point.
Name dropping and misdirected insults are not good tools for an intelligent or even a semi-intelligent discussion. You do have a penchant of bringing up the least respected people in your arguments; or are people Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas just to camouflage your true feelings on racism?
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Rajoo...I'm not acquainted with Citizens United....if Walmart is described or interpreted as an "entity" it's impossible. Walmart "consists" of people; Chariman of the Board of Directors, the Board, stockholders, managerial personnel, workers, etc....
I don't know why Corporations (people who compose them) would NEED to defend their 1A rights? Who is assaulting them?
Corporations don't pay taxes....we do. Go up on Walmart's taxes and they are going up in price of products....
I might read up on Citizen's United, but, I wouldn't classify corps. as people....There may very well be a street in NYC named "Wall Street" but when Wall Street is referred to, I get it.
Least respected....least respected by whom? YOU and the main characters in this forum are clearly on the Left. Groovy. This is America and we also have chocolate "and" vanilla because people are different....the fact that the Left disdains people I admire is of very little consequence....
There is very little consequense in y'all thinking I'm a racist....ultimately, "I'M" the only one in this forum that I answer to.....Don jokingly said we need (something, I don't remember, to guard against hyperbole)....I doubt I'll ever be able to successfully drag you to the water and pour it down your stubborn gullet....but, I ain't the only one around here throwing unsubstantiated bombs, accusations and innuendos.....
I disdain Liberal Idealogy, that damn liar in the Whitehouse....far left loons and the sycophants pitting us against each other while they laugh all the way to the bank....I wouldn't vote for Hilary Clinton if you went into the voting booth with me and held a gun to my head....I think she's dangerous as hell, and I probably always will.....it doesn't take a damn village to raise my child. My wife and I raised our children and didn't ask the village diddly squat. What in the hell is Behemoth Butt doing dictating what kids have for lunch in school anyway? Who elected her? If I want culinary advice, I'll go to Rachel Ray. (I like her butt....)
I'm not necessarily "starstruck" by the chance to get my info from the NY Times, the Huffington Post or wherever ya'll get yours from. I don't "think" your idealogy is inborn.....once again, we're products of our upbringing, life experiences and when we're old enough and sentient, what we choose to immerse ourselves in....
I admire Sarah Palin....I "LIKE" watching Fox News.....I LIKE Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and I'm especially fond of Megyn Kelly..... and I like who I am.... Tom's assumptions about my familial sexual activities are absolutely hilarious. I'm just scrappin with you guys because I find the debate interesting. Hell, if I'm too stupid for you to deal with, don't respond to my posts, statements or arguments. I can
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06-05-2015, 10:47 AM
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06-05-2015, 11:14 AM
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Rajoo...I'm not acquainted with Citizens United....if Walmart is described or interpreted as an "entity" it's impossible. Walmart "consists" of people; Chariman of the Board of Directors, the Board, stockholders, managerial personnel, workers, etc....
I don't know why Corporations (people who compose them) would NEED to defend their 1A rights? Who is assaulting them?
Corporations don't pay taxes....we do. Go up on Walmart's taxes and they are going up in price of products....
I might read up on Citizen's United, but, I wouldn't classify corps. as people....There may very well be a street in NYC named "Wall Street" but when Wall Street is referred to, I get it.
Least respected....least respected by whom? YOU and the main characters in this forum are clearly on the Left. Groovy. This is America and we also have chocolate "and" vanilla because people are different....the fact that the Left disdains people I admire is of very little consequence....
There is very little consequense in y'all thinking I'm a racist....ultimately, "I'M" the only one in this forum that I answer to.....Don jokingly said we need (something, I don't remember, to guard against hyperbole)....I doubt I'll ever be able to successfully drag you to the water and pour it down your stubborn gullet....but, I ain't the only one around here throwing unsubstantiated bombs, accusations and innuendos.....
I disdain Liberal Idealogy, that damn liar in the Whitehouse....far left loons and the sycophants pitting us against each other while they laugh all the way to the bank....I wouldn't vote for Hilary Clinton if you went into the voting booth with me and held a gun to my head....I think she's dangerous as hell, and I probably always will.....it doesn't take a damn village to raise my child. My wife and I raised our children and didn't ask the village diddly squat. What in the hell is Behemoth Butt doing dictating what kids have for lunch in school anyway? Who elected her? If I want culinary advice, I'll go to Rachel Ray. (I like her butt....)
I'm not necessarily "starstruck" by the chance to get my info from the NY Times, the Huffington Post or wherever ya'll get yours from. I don't "think" your idealogy is inborn.....once again, we're products of our upbringing, life experiences and when we're old enough and sentient, what we choose to immerse ourselves in....
I admire Sarah Palin....I "LIKE" watching Fox News.....I LIKE Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and I'm especially fond of Megyn Kelly..... and I like who I am.... Tom's assumptions about my familial sexual activities are absolutely hilarious. I'm just scrappin with you guys because I find the debate interesting. Hell, if I'm too stupid for you to deal with, don't respond to my posts, statements or arguments. I can
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The above post is not a debate, it's a barrage.
Bill Clinton is my hero, one who can score with chicks and be a great president, so I try and imitate his writing style. So.............
Never called you a racist but you keep bringing up Ben Carson but never mention Jesse Jackson, did you forget Alan Keyes?
I did not call you stupid but find your arguments stupid, almost moronish.
This forum has quite a few very intelligent and knowledgeable people so expect to be called on your BS regardless of your political or religious ideology ( Fox and Jesus? ). Feel free to follow your hero's and heroine's (just Sara and Megyn or are you hiding a few more under your bed that you are not telling us: Condie, Ann, BR eyes Michele, et al. ). Our political system (democracy which by the way us Democrats invented and why it's called Democracy, told you Bill is my hero ) and the US Constitution allows you freedom of thought and belief. It is best if you keep them to yourself for the sake of your mental health. But if you insist on spewing, you will be treated how Israel treats the Palestinians. Kaboom. You do Scuds, we do Patriots.
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06-05-2015, 02:18 PM
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The above post is not a debate, it's a barrage.
Bill Clinton is my hero, one who can score with chicks and be a great president, so I try and imitate his writing style. So.............
Never called you a racist but you keep bringing up Ben Carson but never mention Jesse Jackson, did you forget Alan Keyes?
I did not call you stupid but find your arguments stupid, almost moronish.
This forum has quite a few very intelligent and knowledgeable people so expect to be called on your BS regardless of your political or religious ideology ( Fox and Jesus? ). Feel free to follow your hero's and heroine's (just Sara and Megyn or are you hiding a few more under your bed that you are not telling us: Condie, Ann, BR eyes Michele, et al. ). Our political system (democracy which by the way us Democrats invented and why it's called Democracy, told you Bill is my hero ) and the US Constitution allows you freedom of thought and belief. It is best if you keep them to yourself for the sake of your mental health. But if you insist on spewing, you will be treated how Israel treats the Palestinians. Kaboom. You do Scuds, we do Patriots.
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So, if Bill Clinton is your hero and GW Bush and Ronald Reagan are mine...and we realize that we differ on most things, wherein lies the problem? Call me on bullshit....just because you declare it to BE bullshit doesn't make it so......
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06-05-2015, 02:30 PM
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So, if Bill Clinton is your hero and GW Bush and Ronald Reagan are mine...and we realize that we differ on most things, wherein lies the problem? Call me on bullshit....just because you declare it to BE bullshit doesn't make it so......
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I like Andrea Tantoros pretty good.....
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06-05-2015, 10:41 AM
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Never heard of Citizens United? Wow.
Carl
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06-05-2015, 10:46 AM
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Never heard of Citizens United? Wow.
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Fox News won't talk about Citizens United.
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06-05-2015, 11:36 AM
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Fox News won't talk about Citizens United.
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Because CU was proffered by Conservatives as a means of transferring more political clout to the top socio-economic strata. It's a deliberate usurpation of Democracy.
It sets the stage for elitist plutocracy.
The very thing Conservative leaders and barking dogs have convinced their lemmings that they oppose.
Citizens United IS the Conservative lie staring us right in the face.
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