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12-09-2014, 02:09 PM
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Torture the CIA & Report
Still reading what I can find on the report released today.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/cia-tort...09-123qu0.html
I side with the Democrat's in the Senate. In reality this is old news to those who have followed the events. But speaks volumes in making a statement and admit a great injustice.
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12-09-2014, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Still reading what I can find on the report released today.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/cia-tort...09-123qu0.html
I side with the Democrat's in the Senate. In reality this is old news to those who have followed the events. But speaks volumes in making a statement and admit a great injustice.
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I absolutely agree with the release of the report. The GOP (and CIA) seem to be saying, "We didn't torture. However, it did save lives." Now, they're saying don't release the report (whose inflammatory contents were mostly known already) because it will inflame Muslim emotions and possibly harm Americans. Lots of Americans were harmed by our illegitimate war in Iraq and Muslim emotions were already inflamed by the wars (and the torture that went with it), not some feckin' Senate report. Their opposition is strictly CYA.
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12-09-2014, 03:20 PM
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Continuing a policy of "Do As Say, Not As I Do!" and thinking the rest of the world is blind plus stupid is what the Republicans expected. Show no respect and hurt out standing instead. I think some of the players are afraid that charges will follow.
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12-09-2014, 03:39 PM
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Obama could really freak out conservatives by giving a Presidential pardon to Dubya, Cheney, Michael Hayden, et al.
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12-09-2014, 04:11 PM
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And all we hear from those who would subvert the truth is that this information will anger the terrorists. Oh heavens Mildred...we don't wanna do that...they might behead somebody.
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12-09-2014, 04:13 PM
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Gotta love Gee Dubya's speechwriter Mike Gerson moaning in the Post today about the release of this report.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...y.html?hpid=z3
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12-09-2014, 04:41 PM
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""Extreme Recklessness"" From them???
How about starting a WAR on a LIE!! Killing thousands of our young and making a HUGE MESS out of Iraq. All because of OIL! Not to get the guilty for 911.
Jezz, the torture was all about feeling good and getting retribution.
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12-10-2014, 12:15 PM
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I am ambivalent about this - for the most part - and believe if Gore was in office the result would've been similar.
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12-10-2014, 01:07 PM
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Well we have this now. If true, not all has been disclosed.
Mark Udall Says The CIA Is Still Lying
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6302894.html
I think this is old news to cause a any further harm that we cannot protect ourselves from.
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12-10-2014, 01:19 PM
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America is awesome!
http://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-host-...235001597.html
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Fox News host Andrea Tantaros had a somewhat unique reaction to the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture programs, which included for example forcing hummus into a detainee's rectum and threatening to rape a detainee's mother.
"The United States of America is awesome. We are awesome, but we've had this discussion" about torture, Tantaros said. She lamented, "the reason they want to have this discussion is not to show how awesome we are;" rather, "this administration wants to have this discussion to show us how we're not awesome." This is because "they apologized for this country, they don't like this country, they want us to look bad. And all this does is have our enemies laughing at us, that we are having this debate again."
She also alleges that the Senate Intelligence Committee torture report, announced in 2009 and released now over the Obama administration's objections, was a plot to distract from Obamacare's latest political woes.
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