Disliking the President is one thing

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

What makes you think everybody wants to be really rich, Bill? Most people don't even try, and contrary to popular belief it isn't just 'cuz they're lazy or stupid. Sometimes it's because they love what they do. And if they're comfortable with the money they make from it........

But, don't take this to mean that should be taken advantage of. Most people still expect to be able to live off of the money they make. Which leads me to;

You know, I agreed with you that we're all green. You came back with your typical, "...you're all living off of us Republicans..." line. Well, I dunno, there are some pretty rich Liberals out there, who employ a lot of people as well. (Look into who Bill Gates supported in '08.....) But, regardless, you and Ayn Rand do have a point......to a degree. You see, when the masses have nothing left to lose......Well, that's generally when the bloodiest revolutions take place. And, by the time they reach that point, a rich guy is a rich guy, regardless of how he got his loot.

It can go both ways. There is plenty of history full of wealthy heads in baskets.

Dave

Oddly enough this great wealth imbalance started unnder Carter in 1978. Dems had all three branches of government yet what did they do for the middle class? Nada, Nowt, Nothing. Bills before Congress; Tax reform - defeated. New consumer protection agency - defeated. Election Day voter registration - never got to the floor. Health care reform - defeated. Tying the minimum wage to average manufacturing wage - defeated. Overhaul of outdated labor laws - filibustered to death. All despite having 61 Dem senators. So it does not really matter much as both parties have been bought by the monied interests.

Our form of government ensures that business will rule, especially in the States because no state government will impose regulation on business simply because that business will pull up stakes and move to another state. There was some hope after the 17th Ammendment that the senators would not be as corrupted but they still get bought.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

Of course not, D-Ray. But you certainly don't believe photo of a bumper sticker along with the meer existence of morons in society regardless of political leanings can or should be automatically assumed to be corollary.

It may be convenient for you to do so but that just makes my point. A+B does not always = C.

The guy in my avatar is Saul Alinsky. Ironically enough, staging a bumper sticker photo like that, then throwing it out on the internet would be a tactic right out of ol' Saul's playbook.


RC

Although I didn't see any here that I would call racist, the are quite a few that I would consider insulting.

http://www.cafepress.com/+anti-liberal+bumper-stickers

These people will even make whatever bumper sticker you want;

http://www.libertystickers.com/

And, let's not forget. With the right printer, you can always make your own.

And, I have to ask again, Ron;

Is there some reason why we should believe every conservative would be above such a thing? Any more so than liberals?

Dave

[merrylander]

Are we talking about the Neighbourhood Professional?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by CarlV

I said nothing about doing that being "legitimate". Just that it would most likely occur in this and any urban area as a response.



And it is not murdering one's pets like in Arkansas either......


By msnbc.com staff and news services

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- Police were investigating Monday after a cat belonging to the family of a Democrat's campaign manager was beaten to death and the word "liberal" scrawled across its side.

The cat belonged to the family of Jake Burris, who manages Democrat Ken Aden's bid for Arkansas' 3rd Congressional District.

Burris was returning to his Russellville home with his four children when he found the cat on his doorstep Sunday night, the Aden campaign said in a press release.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...wled-across-it

Real classy, huh?



Carl

Our county allegedly has a law stating that such an act is a criminal offense, just don't try and get it enforced.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Oddly enough this great wealth imbalance started unnder Carter in 1978. Dems had all three branches of government yet what did they do for the middle class? Nada, Nowt, Nothing. Bills before Congress; Tax reform - defeated. New consumer protection agency - defeated. Election Day voter registration - never got to the floor. Health care reform - defeated. Tying the minimum wage to average manufacturing wage - defeated. Overhaul of outdated labor laws - filibustered to death. All despite having 61 Dem senators. So it does not really matter much as both parties have been bought by the monied interests.

Our form of government ensures that business will rule, especially in the States because no state government will impose regulation on business simply because that business will pull up stakes and move to another state. There was some hope after the 17th Ammendment that the senators would not be as corrupted but they still get bought.

Yep. A Democratic talking head referred to this on MSNBC recently, saying; "My party made the same mistake in the late seventies, now it's the GOPs turn. Nothing new here, really."

I will point out that with the events in Wisconsin and Ohio, the push for more adoption of "Right to Work" Laws by Republican governors, anti-labor rhetoric spouted by rightwing pundits and so on, that the GOP appears to have a much more aggressive agenda. If the Dems are to be blamed for anything in contemporary times it would be a lack of sufficient resistance, IMO.

Dave

[doucanoe]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Although I didn't see any here that I would call racist, the are quite a few that I would consider insulting.

http://www.cafepress.com/+anti-liberal+bumper-stickers

These people will even make whatever bumper sticker you want;

http://www.libertystickers.com/

And, let's not forget. With the right printer, you can always make your own.

And, I have to ask again, Ron;

Is there some reason why we should believe every conservative would be above such a thing? Any more so than liberals?

Dave

I don't believe I ever made such a statement, Dave.

I also don't know the origin of the bumper sticker and photo and I would venture to guess that you don't either.

It's funny how the actions of a handful of morons in a population of well over 300 million, and/or believe it or not, the actions of those who you would never believe in a million years to be involved, can influence or solidify opinion.

These are interesting times we live in.


RC

[Charles]

Myself, I don't get too excited over bumper stickers.

Chas

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

...These are interesting times we live in.


RC

Ancient Chinese curse.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Let's start a 'Be Nice To Your Neighborhood Prostitute Week' (hey, why not plagerize .

You go first D, I'll gauge my wifes' likely reaction on yours

Seriously, my heart goes out to the many who are for all intents and purposes slaves.

Pete

How about a lawyerly answer. People should comply with the law. When there are laws against prostitution, they should be obeyed. Whether such laws should exist is another question.

There is certainly a practical argument to be made that removing prostitution from the underground economy would cause less victimization by those who would exploit vulnerable individuals engaged in the practice. It is also not a great logical leap to suggest that we should not prohibit private acts between consenting adults, even if the consent is dependent on cash changing hands. I have personal objections to the practice, but as I have mentioned, I have personal objections to many practices that are legal as well. This is simply an instance where I believe that the moral judgment should be a matter for the individual. If there are matters that move prostitution out of the area of purely personal choice, my answer might be different, but I don't have information in front of me that would spell out what those matters might be.

Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

GAH! Reasoned thought!



Pete