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Old 05-22-2022, 07:26 AM
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And the comments about "replacement theory" that populate the media of late is just so much gas-lighting. The left has been crowing for years about the need to secure the Hispanic vote, claiming that: “If that pattern continues, the GOP is doomed to 40 years of wandering in a desert. ”https://www.salon.com/2008/11/13/new_mexico_6/
Your disingenuous and defensive response here fails to recognize the difference between legitimately trying to appeal to minority voters (Democrats) and perpetuating a pernicious conspiracy theory espousing the notion that an international (Jewish) cabal is actively trying to replace northern European culture in the US and Europe, thereby encouraging or excusing violence against minorities that manifests itself in mass murders in New Zealand, Norway, El Paso, Charleston, Pittsburgh and Buffalo (Republicans).

Here's a thought exercise for you. Consider for a moment that no Republican leader has condemned replacement theory espoused by Tucker Carlson, Elise Stefanik and others after the murders in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, El Paso and Charleston. How would these GOP leaders react if a wild-eyed Muslim went on MSNBC and espoused an ideology that led to multiple mass murders of white Evangelicals in the USA?

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White Christian nationalism can be messy to define, but it’s critical to recognize its three animating impulses: freedom, order and violence — the ideology’s holy trinity. The freedom belongs only to Americans these nationalists see as like them (White men). The order is to be imposed on all those they don’t (everyone else). And righteous violence is to be deployed as necessary to achieve this twisted vision...

The ideology’s adherents are committed to instituting an ethno-culture that represents a shrinking minority — a traditionalist Christian social order in which the freedoms of White Christians are privileged. Theirs is a world where race, religion and national belonging have become virtually inseparable and are not necessarily tied to spirituality.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...falo-abortion/
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Old 05-22-2022, 08:50 AM
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Speaking before a floor of legislators, state Rep. Mickey Dollens said on Thursday that he is thinking about introducing the legislation next year.

"I would invite you to co-author a bill that I'm considering next year that would mandate that each male, when they reach puberty, get a mandatory vasectomy that's only reversible when they reach the point of financial and emotional stability," he told GOP lawmakers.

"If you think that's crazy then I think that maybe you understand how 50 percent of Oklahomans feel, as well," the Democrat said.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:19 AM
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Speaking before a floor of legislators, state Rep. Mickey Dollens said on Thursday that he is thinking about introducing the legislation next year.

"I would invite you to co-author a bill that I'm considering next year that would mandate that each male, when they reach puberty, get a mandatory vasectomy that's only reversible when they reach the point of financial and emotional stability," he told GOP lawmakers.

"If you think that's crazy then I think that maybe you understand how 50 percent of Oklahomans feel, as well," the Democrat said.
https://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-stat...154326130.html
It is interesting how all the anti-abortion fervor conveniently overlooks how men actually play a big role in pregnancy. As the saying goes, Republicans support children from conception to birth. After that, let 'em starve.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:30 AM
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Interesting that the same questions can be asked in a different way:

Why all the screaming about Roe V Wade while inflation is increasing at historic rates? Declining to enforce immigration laws while a gallon of gas costs more than it ever has?

And the comments about "replacement theory" that populate the media of late is just so much gas-lighting. The left has been crowing for years about the need to secure the Hispanic vote, claiming that: “If that pattern continues, the GOP is doomed to 40 years of wandering in a desert. ”https://www.salon.com/2008/11/13/new_mexico_6/
A partisan gloats at the prospect of winning the support of a bloc of voters. Well, that's not quite the same as calling for the white population to be deliberately reduced by government policies and diluted by immigration. Is it? That is the Great Replacement panic myth. That is what motivates violence, as it is heedlessly spread by GOP leaders.
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Old 05-22-2022, 12:39 PM
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Debating a guy who was (is?) all in for a con man like Trump is pretty pointless. He probably believes the election was “stolen”. Sad!
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Old 05-22-2022, 01:01 PM
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Republicans are complaining about "Replacement" and yet, by denying women abortions, minorities who can't afford to take time off work and travel to other states will be forced to have those babies. Seems to me that denying abortions only increases the population the republicans fear so much.
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Old 05-22-2022, 01:59 PM
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Yeah, Republicans fear nothing. That's why they go out of their way to avoid certain neighborhoods, carry guns everywhere they go, obsess over security, insist the country is "being invaded" on the southern border.............. Stinks of bigotry and cowardice to me. Republicans fear EVERYTHING.

Whatever, Mike. You don't give a damn about saving unborn babies or their mothers, you're just using abortion to pull in votes from easily influenced people.
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Old 05-22-2022, 02:27 PM
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Justice Alito’s alternate abortion ‘facts’

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...bortion-facts/
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Old 05-22-2022, 02:43 PM
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Debating a guy who was (is?) all in for a con man like Trump is pretty pointless. He probably believes the election was “stolen”. Sad!
'The guy' has the tools to debate intelligently. He's just is in the habit of thinking the name of the game is 'bash bash.' He has, to be sure, been encouraged in this habit....
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Old 05-24-2022, 07:04 AM
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A partisan gloats at the prospect of winning the support of a bloc of voters. Well, that's not quite the same as calling for the white population to be deliberately reduced by government policies and diluted by immigration. Is it? That is the Great Replacement panic myth. That is what motivates violence, as it is heedlessly spread by GOP leaders.
I'm not a fan of replacement theory, but one does have to ask: to what ends will a politician or party go to secure a vote, or a voting block? Its no secret that Dems believe that less aggressive enforcement of immigration law correlates to increased support within the Hispanic community. Its also no secret that the Dems have gone hard left over time on the issue of immigration.
Absent any public explanation about why illegal immigration if flourishing, it certainly appears that porous borders - which also allow terrorists to enter - are a means to a end with today's left.
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