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02-20-2015, 10:16 AM
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While I understand German sensitivity to Hitler's writings, it should be published, with or without editorial commentary. Germany has done far better than Japan in acknowledging the atrocities it committed in WWII and this process should continue.
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Get with the program. The Nazis, not Germany, committed those atrocities.
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02-20-2015, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Get with the program. The Nazis, not Germany, committed those atrocities.
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Oh what nationality was the party then?
Germans followed their leader all the way to the outskirts of Moscow with no winter coats. Citizens do not do such things unless they believe in what they are doing.
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02-20-2015, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Oh what nationality was the party then?
Germans followed their leader all the way to the outskirts of Moscow with no winter coats. Citizens do not do such things unless they believe in what they are doing.
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The were soldiers and when a soldier says 'get stuffed' to his commander they usually get shot.
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04-08-2015, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
The were soldiers and when a soldier says 'get stuffed' to his commander they usually get shot.
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Very true Rob, but they were not yet soldiers on "The night of broken glass". Soldiers did not come till years later. They ( the German people ) followed him blindingly in to the darkness.
Does this mean they should not be allowed to read the book ? No, not in my opinion. I feel that hiding the past does not allow it to be remembered..
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04-10-2015, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy
Very true Rob, but they were not yet soldiers on "The night of broken glass". Soldiers did not come till years later. They ( the German people ) followed him blindingly in to the darkness.
Does this mean they should not be allowed to read the book ? No, not in my opinion. I feel that hiding the past does not allow it to be remembered..
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Education is the key.
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04-10-2015, 06:36 AM
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Education is the key.
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I could not agree more sir.
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02-20-2015, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Germans followed their leader all the way to the outskirts of Moscow with no winter coats. Citizens do not do such things unless they believe in what they are doing.
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So, we all bought the Iraq pseudo-War, right?
I understand your point, I merely disagree.
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02-20-2015, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
So, we all bought the Iraq pseudo-War, right?
I understand your point, I merely disagree.
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I would posit most Americans supported the invasion at the time.
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02-20-2015, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Oh what nationality was the party then?
Germans followed their leader all the way to the outskirts of Moscow with no winter coats. Citizens do not do such things unless they believe in what they are doing.
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One of the most difficult questions still is the definition of the German citizen then. A lot of them were Nazis, no question about that. But a lot of Germans did just as much as was necessary in order to survive. My Grandfather and his brother, my Granduncle were in Stalingrad. My Grandfather was a physician and his brother a reverend. Grandpa "repaired" the warriors as far as he could and Granduncle buried the soldiers who died under Grandpas hands. Nazis?
Two absolutely lovely people, Grandpa worked as a doctor until 1978 and died aged 95. Granduncle became mentally sick soon after the end of the war as a result of what he exerienced in Stalingrad and died 1976 in a state of mental derangement.
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02-20-2015, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HarmanKardon
One of the most difficult questions still is the definition of the German citizen then. A lot of them were Nazis, no question about that. But a lot of Germans did just as much as was necessary in order to survive. My Grandfather and his brother, my Granduncle were in Stalingrad. My Grandfather was a physician and his brother a reverend. Grandpa "repaired" the warriors as far as he could and Granduncle buried the soldiers who died under Grandpas hands. Nazis?
Two absolutely lovely people, Grandpa worked as a doctor until 1978 and died aged 95. Granduncle became mentally sick soon after the end of the war as a result of what he exerienced in Stalingrad and died 1976 in a state of mental derangement.
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My next door neighbours back in Quebec were from Germany, he was conscripted into the army but emigrated as soon as they could, damn good neigbours and nice people.
I also had a good friend Ruthild (May she rest in piece) she was a hostess at a standards conference in Nurnburg and a fellow philatelist. She died in a car crash on the autobahn.
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