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05-05-2017, 02:05 PM
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The GOP members of the House were asked to vote for this latest version of healthcare act bereft of details and cost for the good of the party. Trump is now claiming this as a great victory? Question is who loses?
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Almost any Republican running in close districts with any luck, Maryland may even be lucky to get rid of that idiot Andy Harris.
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05-05-2017, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
But it still beats what we have here by a country mile. Drug prices are close to one half of what we pay here.
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Name brand drugs, yes. Generics, not so much. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3999558/
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05-05-2017, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
I think it's the system. Most gainfully employed people, those working for unions and most importantly government employees at every level are provided healthcare by their employers as a no-tax benefit.
So people having to buy healthcare (or go without one) are in the minority. Besides the people in Congress are not facing this situation since they get very generous health benefits, more like give themselves what they want.
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The point is, we're not a civilized country. We have a predatory health care system that preys on the sick for obscene profits, a predatory educational system designed to put students in lifetime debt, indeed our entire capitalist system which is supposed to "foster competition" only destroys competition; you can drive across this nation and find the same exact hand full of chain stores and restaurants with the same exact products in every city nationwide.... and not much else, we murder each other by the tens of thousands every year, black people are on police hit lists across the country, we treat hispanics like lepers and Muslims even worse, our political system is corrupt as the day is long and we don't seem to give a fuck, we're greedy beyond comprehension, and we're as hateful and ugly as a nation gets.
And that's not even touching our history of genocide and slavery.
We are not a civilized nation.
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It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
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05-06-2017, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPots
The point is, we're not a civilized country. We have a predatory health care system that preys on the sick for obscene profits, a predatory educational system designed to put students in lifetime debt, indeed our entire capitalist system which is supposed to "foster competition" only destroys competition; you can drive across this nation and find the same exact hand full of chain stores and restaurants with the same exact products in every city nationwide.... and not much else, we murder each other by the tens of thousands every year, black people are on police hit lists across the country, we treat hispanics like lepers and Muslims even worse, our political system is corrupt as the day is long and we don't seem to give a fuck, we're greedy beyond comprehension, and we're as hateful and ugly as a nation gets.
And that's not even touching our history of genocide and slavery.
We are not a civilized nation.
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You didn't take your meds this week?
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05-06-2017, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
You didn't take your meds this week?
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You can pretend this isn't what our country is if you want. Lot's of people refuse to face it. Lots of people live in their own fantasy world we're we're number one YAY! Go ahead, get your confederate flag and fly it off the back of your truck if it makes you feel more manly...more patriotic.
If you'd open your eyes you'd see exactly where this country is goose marching towards.
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It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
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05-06-2017, 08:04 AM
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Fact on ones views changing event, a cancer diagnoses. Just how fast the ACA becomes relished! I have seen this first hand with one of my TP repub family members.
Now they are afraid of what will happen if it goes away, will they loose their home? Upset because they can't work, can't get unemployment, no help financially, and don't understand why! Of course were Obama haters and staunch union bashes!
They have assets and are afraid of loosing them now! All it takes is one bad diagnoses and the world looks totally different.
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05-06-2017, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
You didn't take your meds this week?
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Dondillion will be so glad to see this latest effort at sharing information.
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05-06-2017, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPots
You can pretend this isn't what our country is if you want. Lot's of people refuse to face it. Lots of people live in their own fantasy world we're we're number one YAY! Go ahead, get your confederate flag and fly it off the back of your truck if it makes you feel more manly...more patriotic.
If you'd open your eyes you'd see exactly where this country is goose marching towards.
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Healthcare is like money, you will only truly appreciate money till you don't have it. Trump supporters who are celebrating the death of Obamacare will not appreciate the need for a govt. regulated and subsidized healthcare plan till they need it. I do not believe that people in the bottom 90% of the economic scale can pay for a single major medical treatment.
Yet these demented red staters vote with their brains than their pocketbooks. Not, just stupid. Look at Kansas?
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05-06-2017, 12:08 PM
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Vote with their brains? The instinctive, tribal parts maybe, not the logical parts.....
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05-06-2017, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
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Mike had I taken Florence to Canada I do not doubt but what she would be alive today. So take your healthcare system and shove it.
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