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Old 07-18-2012, 01:10 PM
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If it busts loose, it would prolly be before the election. Obama showing his balls and all that. Election cycle politics, dontchyaknow. As I see it something is brewing and it's inevitable regardless of who you vote for. I've read Netanyahus book (Fighting Terrorism) and I'm pretty sure Israel isn't going to just sit on it's hands. When push comes to shove, either we deal with Iran or they will. Personally, I'd rather they do it. But, realistically, even if Israel strikes Iran first, we will end up having to back them up anyways.

I think this is what's behind Hillarys recent comments to Netanyahu.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:12 PM
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If it busts loose, it would prolly be before the election. Obama showing his balls and all that. Election cycle politics, dontchyaknow. As I see it something is brewing and it's inevitable regardless of who you vote for. I've read Netanyahus book (Fighting Terrorism) and I'm pretty sure Israel isn't going to just sit on it's hands. When push comes to shove, either we deal with Iran or they will. Personally, I'd rather they do it. But, realistically, even if Israel strikes Iran first, we will end up having to back them up anyways.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:15 PM
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...even if Israel strikes Iran first, we will end up having to back them up anyways.
Which emboldens Israel.

We need to let them know that if they buy the big ham, they must eat it all.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:17 PM
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I getcha'alls, but we really, really don't want Israel to be bombing any arab countries if 'we' can do it. Don't want to stir up all those jewhaters particularly in light of the age of new arab enlightenment.

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Old 07-18-2012, 01:50 PM
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Which emboldens Israel.

We need to let them know that if they buy the big ham, they must eat it all.
I see it the same way, Zeke. But, realistically, what would happen in that scenario?
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:40 PM
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I see it the same way, Zeke. But, realistically, what would happen in that scenario?
Israel ceases to be the always yapping terrier?

I get it.

1. There is a small percentage of radical extremists that desire for Israel not to exist and all Jews to die at their hand.
2. Self-indulgent "Never Again" crap rationalizes an offensive stance in the mind of Israelis regarding such threats.

But here's the rub: when a schoolkid gets suspended for two weeks because he brought a 2-inch penknife to school we call it a dumb "no tolerance policy." But if Israel attacks an entire sovereign nation due to a sliver of radicals we're going to commit military forces? Why isn't that generally perceived as dumb? (Hint: guilt.)

Supporting Israel's Nationalist pre-pubescence is, to a degree, what makes them this way. When we cease, maybe they'll grow up.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:44 PM
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If there were missiles lobbed at Detroit from Windsor and the Canadians didn't take care of it like right now we would, no ifs ands or buts.

Israel is asked to put up with a lot.

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We need to let them know that if they buy the big ham, they must eat it all.
Israelis eating ham?
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:22 PM
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If there were missiles lobbed at Detroit from Windsor and the Canadians didn't take care of it like right now we would, no ifs ands or buts.

Israel is asked to put up with a lot.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:36 PM
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If it busts loose, it would prolly be before the election. Obama showing his balls and all that. Election cycle politics, dontchyaknow. As I see it something is brewing and it's inevitable regardless of who you vote for. I've read Netanyahus book (Fighting Terrorism) and I'm pretty sure Israel isn't going to just sit on it's hands. When push comes to shove, either we deal with Iran or they will. Personally, I'd rather they do it. But, realistically, even if Israel strikes Iran first, we will end up having to back them up anyways.

I think this is what's behind Hillarys recent comments to Netanyahu.
Do you think a war right before the election would have positive results for Obama?
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