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Old 02-23-2014, 09:43 AM
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Traditional analysis of the Equal Protection provision of the Constitution focused on immutable characteristics of the individuals seeking protection. As a shorthand, an immutable characteristic is something that you are born with - for example race or gender. That is what gives significance to the research that shows that sexual preference is hard-wired. It brings such individuals within the protection of the Equal Protection clause. The hard-wiring makes sexual preference closer to an immutable characteristic.

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Old 02-23-2014, 10:11 AM
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As a shorthand, an immutable characteristic is something that you are born with - for example race or gender. That is what gives significance to the research that shows that sexual preference is hard-wired. It brings such individuals within the protection of the Equal Protection clause. The hard-wiring makes sexual preference closer to an immutable characteristic.

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Old 02-23-2014, 10:17 AM
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Isn't that a leap?



A black man cannot by choice become white, whereas anyone by choice can

become homosexual.


I'm not so sure that it is true that anyone by choice can become a homosexual.

In my opinion, that is a false statement.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:24 AM
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I'm not so sure that it is true that anyone by choice can become a homosexual.

In my opinion, that is a false statement.
Wow! Wow!
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:25 AM
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A black man cannot by choice become white, whereas anyone by choice can become homosexual.
My heterosexual orientation was not a choice and I see no reason to believe that a homosexuals is any different.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:27 AM
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Wow! Wow!

Not sure what your response means .... But I just don't think someone can wake up one day and decide they are going to be homosexual any more than they can decide they are going to change the color of their eyes.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:28 AM
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My heterosexual orientation was not a choice and I see no reason to believe that a homosexuals is any different.


Well stated.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:38 AM
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For instance...a lot of people become homosexuals for financial gains.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:44 AM
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I'm not so sure that it is true that anyone by choice can become a homosexual.

In my opinion, that is a false statement.
In other words there is no free will.
I am not going to participate in homosexual activities.
I am not going to steal.
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:47 AM
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For instance...a lot of people become homosexuals for financial gains.
You're a funny guy Don.

You had me going there for a while.

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