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02-23-2014, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Traditional analysis of the Equal Protection provision of the Constitution focused on immutable characteristics of the individuals seeking protection. As a shorthand, an immutable characteristic is something that you are born with - for example race or gender. That is what gives significance to the research that shows that sexual preference is hard-wired. It brings such individuals within the protection of the Equal Protection clause. The hard-wiring makes sexual preference closer to an immutable characteristic.
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02-23-2014, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
As a shorthand, an immutable characteristic is something that you are born with - for example race or gender. That is what gives significance to the research that shows that sexual preference is hard-wired. It brings such individuals within the protection of the Equal Protection clause. The hard-wiring makes sexual preference closer to an immutable characteristic.
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D-Ray
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Isn't that a leap?
A black man cannot by choice become white, whereas anyone by choice can
become homosexual.
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02-23-2014, 10:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
Isn't that a leap?
A black man cannot by choice become white, whereas anyone by choice can
become homosexual.
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I'm not so sure that it is true that anyone by choice can become a homosexual.
In my opinion, that is a false statement.
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02-23-2014, 10:24 AM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barbara
I'm not so sure that it is true that anyone by choice can become a homosexual.
In my opinion, that is a false statement.
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Wow! Wow!
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02-23-2014, 10:25 AM
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Persona non grata
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
A black man cannot by choice become white, whereas anyone by choice can become homosexual.
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My heterosexual orientation was not a choice and I see no reason to believe that a homosexuals is any different.
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02-23-2014, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Wow! Wow!
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Not sure what your response means .... But I just don't think someone can wake up one day and decide they are going to be homosexual any more than they can decide they are going to change the color of their eyes.
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02-23-2014, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
My heterosexual orientation was not a choice and I see no reason to believe that a homosexuals is any different.
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Well stated.
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02-23-2014, 10:38 AM
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Jigsawed
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For instance...a lot of people become homosexuals for financial gains.
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02-23-2014, 10:44 AM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barbara
I'm not so sure that it is true that anyone by choice can become a homosexual.
In my opinion, that is a false statement.
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In other words there is no free will.
I am not going to participate in homosexual activities.
I am not going to steal.
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02-23-2014, 10:47 AM
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Persona non grata
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
For instance...a lot of people become homosexuals for financial gains.
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You're a funny guy Don.
You had me going there for a while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY
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