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02-20-2017, 06:40 PM
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It is called Afghanistan.
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When did Congress declare war on Afghanistan? Please provide link to said declaration.
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02-20-2017, 06:44 PM
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When did Congress declare war on Afghanistan? Please provide link to said declaration.
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Trump doesn't need a formal declaration of war according to the cited article.
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02-20-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Trump doesn't need a formal declaration of war according to the cited article.
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The article is about tariffs and Mexico, not Afghanistan.
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02-20-2017, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
When did Congress declare war on Afghanistan? Please provide link to said declaration.
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Quit trolling. There is legislation allowing Trump to raise tariffs even without a war. The Trade Act Of 1974. Plus The President has a lot of power in this area.
Is your next post going to deny current existing law?
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02-20-2017, 07:01 PM
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OK, seems like Trump has the power.
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1. Trump's biggest weapon: Unlimited tariffs 'during time of war'
Trump could invoke the "Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917" to hit a nation with tariffs as high as he wants. Under the law, the president can restrict all types of trade "during time of war." That definition is very loose though.
America doesn't have to be at war with a particular nation -- it just has to be "at war" somewhere in the world in order to apply tariffs against other countries.
Experts believe U.S. special forces in Syria and Libya would suffice to meet that requirement for Trump to hit countries such as China and Mexico with tariffs.
In 1971, President Richard Nixon used this act to impose a 10% import tariff (not directed at any particular nation) citing the Korean War, which had ended nearly two decades prior. Technically, America was still in a state of emergency which had not lifted.
All to say: the excuse of war has a very loose interpretation that the President can use.
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/23/news...-tariff-power/
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02-20-2017, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
The article is about tariffs and Mexico, not Afghanistan.
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You should read the article.
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02-20-2017, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Quit trolling. There is legislation allowing Trump to raise tariffs even without a war. The Trade Act Of 1974. Plus The President has a lot of power in this area.
Is your next post going to deny current existing law?
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Thanks for confirming Congress hasn't declared war on Afghanistan. Why did you bring Afghanistan up in post 9, which was your reply to post 6?
In post 3 I asked a question about Congress and tariffs with regard to Trump and Mexico and in post 4 you linked to a CNN article that answered my question.
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02-20-2017, 07:18 PM
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You should read the article.
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I did when ice referenced it and pretty sure Afghanistan wasn't mentioned, but I'll revisit it and check.
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02-20-2017, 07:19 PM
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Pretty sure Chief Financial Officers don't run large corporations.
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CFOs are persuasive. As are the lawyers. That is where leadership types get stuck in thought spirals with their CEOs.
It's like learning the exposure triangle in photography.
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02-20-2017, 07:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
Thanks for confirming Congress hasn't declared war on Afghanistan. Why did you bring Afghanistan up in post , which was your reply to post 6?
In post 3 I asked a question about Congress and tariffs with regard to Trump and Mexico and in post 4 you linked to a CNN article that answered my question.
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You were implying that the article was not applicable since there was no formal declaration of war. There doesn't have to be. Now you will say you were not implying anything.
I don't think the War on Terror is over.
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