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01-19-2013, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
My neighbor gave me some curved stripper clips and a few rounds of Lebel 1886 rifle rounds. First smokeless cartridges made. The French/Austrians sure make stuff with a certain flair, even bullets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebel_Model_1886_rifle
I'll have to see if my friend, the collector, has one of these WW1 era rifles.
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Considering it's a French rifle, it may never have been fired in combat.
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01-19-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Considering it's a French rifle, it may never have been fired in combat.
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It didn't even get into the frontline troops' hands. We could learn something from those wine obsessive Frenchies, no? Designed by Mannlicher, hence the Austrian ref.
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01-19-2013, 07:52 PM
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I have two 30.06 rifles one a Springfield 03 and the other a Eddystone bolt action. Both are very easy and fast to learn to shoot well. I would think that round would be also!
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01-19-2013, 08:03 PM
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I have two 30.06 rifles one a Springfield 03 and the other a Eddystone bolt action. Both are very easy and fast to learn to shoot well. I would think that round would be also!
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These are 8mm? Weird shit, indeed! These rounds appear to be full steel jacketed, armor piercing ?
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01-19-2013, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
These are 8mm? Weird shit, indeed! These rounds appear to be full steel jacketed, armor piercing ?
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No. 30-06 is also called a 7.62x63 (bullet diameter x case length).
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01-19-2013, 08:37 PM
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No. 30-06 is also called a 7.62x63 (bullet diameter x case length).
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Right the 7.62 NATO. The AK47 also uses a 7.62 round but with a shorter casing. I think Bob may have been talking about the French Lebel cartridge being 8mm.
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01-19-2013, 09:02 PM
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Right the 7.62 NATO. The AK47 also uses a 7.62 round but with a shorter casing. I think Bob may have been talking about the French Lebel cartridge being 8mm.
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Actually, the 7.62 NATO (7.62X51) is the 308 Winchester, not a 30-06 (which is not a NATO cartridge). The AK shoots a 7.62X39.
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01-19-2013, 09:15 PM
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Sorry I was alluding to the progression from the Lebel rifle/round to Mauser then onto the Springfield and then Lee-Enfield. How that action and round may have started the trend away from lever action.
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01-19-2013, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
Actually, the 7.62 NATO (7.62X51) is the 308 Winchester, not a 30-06 (which is not a NATO cartridge). The AK shoots a 7.62X39.
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OOPS! Thanks for the correction! I probably had to learn that in the Army but that was 45 years ago.
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01-19-2013, 10:20 PM
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