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01-15-2018, 08:10 AM
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No. I know what Tim Scott said about a conversation with Graham. Scott wasn't at the meeting either.
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And Flake, who said that Graham mentioned the shithole comment to him right after the meeting and before Durbin spoke out. Graham also said that he personally called out Trump for his comment during the meeting.
You constantly say that you're not a Trump defender, but you believe Trump, a guy who has lied over 2,000 times in the past year and has a history rife with racism, over Durbin, Graham, Flake and Scott. And lastly, there have been numerous reports that Trump called a number of his friends that night asserting that his comment would play well with his base.
A conservative columnist said President Trump called friends to brag after the meeting in which the president reportedly referred to Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as "shithole countries."
"It’s weird that people in the room don’t remember Trump using that word when Trump himself was calling friends to brag about it afterwards," Erick Erickson, who has in the past been critical of Trump, said in a tweet.
"I spoke to one of those friends. The President thought it would play well with the base."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...g-about-s-hole
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...stance-n837056
Hell, even the ultimate arbiters of conservative truth, Fox & Friends, agree that Trump made his shithole comments. That should put all arguments to bed.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36...-comments-were
I guess you believe Lying Donnie Dotard when he says "I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed."
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01-15-2018, 08:51 AM
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You constantly say that you're not a Trump defender, but you believe Trump, a guy who has lied over 2,000 times in the past year and has a history rife with racism, over Durbin, Graham, Flake and Scott. "[/I]
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I constantly comment on the reporting of all things Trump, which is of extremely low quality and rife with shoddy souring, third-party commentary, and innuendo. I have no idea what was said or not said in that meeting, and neither do you. But I certainly see what you've chosen to invest yourself in.
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01-15-2018, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I constantly comment on the reporting of all things Trump, which is of extremely low quality and rife with shoddy souring, third-party commentary, and innuendo. I have no idea what was said or not said in that meeting, and neither do you. But I certainly see what you've chosen to invest yourself in.
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Durbin's and Graham's comments were not third-party and are fully consistent with other documented instances of racism by your Dear Leader, including (but not limited to): Federal lawsuit over housing discrimination, Central Park Five, Mexicans are rapists, Judge Curiel, Muslim Ban ...
Secondly, Flake and Scott saying that Graham told them of Trump's comments are first-party comments of what Graham said after the meeting. The bottom line - You chose to believe Trump over Durbin, Graham, Scott and Flake. Keep on doing so. It shows the darkness and depravity of your soul.
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01-15-2018, 01:54 PM
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Durbin's and Graham's comments were not third-party and are fully consistent with other documented instances of racism by your Dear Leader, including (but not limited to): Federal lawsuit over housing discrimination, Central Park Five, Mexicans are rapists, Judge Curiel, Muslim Ban ...
Secondly, Flake and Scott saying that Graham told them of Trump's comments are first-party comments of what Graham said after the meeting. The bottom line - You chose to believe Trump over Durbin, Graham, Scott and Flake. Keep on doing so. It shows the darkness and depravity of your soul.
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Durbin's record of less than honest comments doesn't inspire confidence. Graham hasn't confirmed one way or another what was said. Flake and Scott weren't in the meeting. Their characterization of what Graham did or didn't say are not terribly relevant, because we don't know what Graham said to them.
Your comments above show that you believe what you want to believe, not just about what goes on inside the beltway but also about comments made here. Here's exactly what I said about who I "believe":
I have no idea what was said or not said in that meeting, and neither do you.
You either are being purposefully dishonest, or you can't read. Frankly, I don't know which and I really don't care.
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01-15-2018, 02:31 PM
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Durbin's record of less than honest comments doesn't inspire confidence...
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And Trump's does???
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01-15-2018, 03:06 PM
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And Trump's does???
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That's essentially the point. We're left with not knowing what really happened because the folks involved are all agenda driven, are all willing to say or not say whatever they need to in service to that agenda, and none have a great track record with unabated honesty.
So, right back to my earlier post. Folks are going to believe what they want to believe. Me? I don't believe the media reporting on this, but I don't think we know what was said in that meeting and exclusively taking Durbin's word for it is a non-starter.
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01-15-2018, 04:34 PM
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That's essentially the point. We're left with not knowing what really happened because the folks involved are all agenda driven, are all willing to say or not say whatever they need to in service to that agenda, and none have a great track record with unabated honesty.
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Durbin has perhaps told a lie or two in the past years (he is a politician, after all), whereas Trump has told 2,000 in the past year and has a history of frequent racist statements. Furthermore, Flake, Scott, and Graham have no such history. Also, Trump's two Senate defenders said they couldn't recall what was said in the meeting before they affirmatively asserted a day later that they could. Lastly, Trump first tweet after the meeting admitted he used nasty language and still held the racist sentiments that led to his nasty statement.
The bottom line is that your Dear Leader has a long history of racist statements and has long been viewed by most non-sycophantic Americans as a vile, disgusting, racist human being. But, Neo-Nazis and the KKK continue to love and praise him. You're in good company.
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01-15-2018, 03:01 PM
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I have no idea what was said or not said in that meeting, and neither do you.
You either are being purposefully dishonest, or you can't read. Frankly, I don't know which and I really don't care.
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And you are being intellectually dishonest to yourself. C'mon, man, you really aren't as stupid as Zero, there's hope for you yet! What the hell is it that triggered your hatred for real journalism?
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