Well there goes the economy

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Thanks for waking me up. Now I see. It was Reagans fault.

Um. Well. Yes.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

How is there going to be agreement when two parties are diametrically opposed on an issue?

Pete

Is this a serious question?

John

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Fixed it for you.

San Simeon is about 200 miles down the coast from me. Amazing place!

But not in a good way.

John

I live only a couple hundred or so from Biltmore. They have a winery there that markets it's wine all over the region. It's not bad wine. (But for a local winery nothing touches Virginias own Horton.) The house is unbeleiveable. I have to admit, I like those old castles. Which is really what they are. But I also know what those guys put others through so they could accrue such amazing wealth. No thanks.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

How is there going to be agreement when two parties are diametrically opposed on an issue?

Pete

Well, the way I see it, Pete, is that the whole idea behind a two party system is that somewhere between the opposing views is a "Happy medium" of sorts, a give and take kinda deal. Problem is, people have gotten hardheaded and decided that their way is the only way, and they seek an "all or nothing" scenario. This absolutely kills the spirit of negotiation and any hope that agreement will ever be reached.

In other words, the problem is arrogance and self-righteousness. Jackasses who think they have been ordained to rule by the Almighty himself, and that anyone who opposes them is obviously an agent of the "The Great Horned One"---Satan.

Does that help any?

Dave

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Is this a serious question?

John

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Well, the way I see it, Pete, is that the whole idea behind a two party system is that somewhere between the opposing views is a "Happy medium" of sorts, a give and take kinda deal. Problem is, people have gotten hardheaded and decided that their way is the only way, and they seek an "all or nothing" scenario. This absolutely kills the spirit of negotiation and any hope that agreement will ever be reached.

In other words, the problem is arrogance and self-righteousness. Jackasses who think they have been ordained to rule by the Almighty himself, and that anyone who opposes them is obviously an agent of the "The Great Horned One"---Satan.

Does that help any?

Dave

I didn't realise we were talking about Hillary

Heck we're pretty close. Take any thorny issue, say immigration. It's been so demagogued by both sides - and is an emotional hotbutton - that when serious folks try to look at what's really happening, and attempt to design a system that reflects the interests of parties involved, it's screamed down by both sides.

Then there is the actual cut and dry issues like abortion where there really is a largely a or b choice.

What I mean is there are a number of issues that folks disagree on. And what happens, again both parties, is the other side says THEY'RE NOT BEING REASONABLE instead of understanding that intellegent folks can disagree.

Pete

[merrylander]

Really? And who might be these intelligent folks you are talking about? Inquiring minds want to know.

[piece-itpete]

Well I figure 3-1/2 here

Just trying to start an argument! Lolol.

Pete

[merrylander]

I now know why we are in trouble. Last night we were watching the PBS show Nightly Business Report that follows the Newshour. Susie was interviewing some big shot economist (whose name escapes me) regarding Wall Street's panic over world debt. So they focused on Greece which is apparently about to declare banckruptcy. He kept repeating that we should be concerned because they were our biggest trading partner. Greece? I looked at my wife and wondered aloud "What planet is this jerk from?"

Maybe our biggest tradiing partner in the Ouzo market.

[BlueStreak]

Kalamata Olives and Feta Cheese. The entire world economy would collapse with out them.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

And why is that? It couldn't be because "market forces" drove housing prices into the strattosphere while wages stagnated could it?

Dave

Still haven't answered this question, Pete.

Dave