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Old 01-04-2024, 03:45 AM
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Not more crooked than the rest...just specially targeted at this time.
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Old 01-04-2024, 02:11 PM
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Not more crooked than the rest...just specially targeted at this time.
Do you seriously think all US Senators are as corrupt as Menendez?
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Old 01-04-2024, 03:20 PM
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The ol' "they're all the same" line.

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Old 01-04-2024, 06:29 PM
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Just target anyone of them. By and large both sides had openly front run for China until China became too toxic.

As to Israel, the system has on blinkers.
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Old 01-04-2024, 06:53 PM
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Speaking broadly the whole lobbying theatrics is corruption.
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Old 01-04-2024, 09:48 PM
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Saying Menendez was targeted? Geeze Dondi, you sound like the guy's a Republican.
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Old 01-04-2024, 10:55 PM
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Just target anyone of them. By and large both sides had openly front run for China until China became too toxic.

As to Israel, the system has on blinkers.
Do you have any idea who opened up the welcome wagon to China?
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Old 01-07-2024, 04:27 PM
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Speaking broadly the whole lobbying theatrics is corruption.
There are legalities regarding political fund raising, and spending & accounting for those funds.

To say or imply that it's all a scam is just an excuse for saying that abuses can't or shouldn't be enforced and/or that it doesn't matter & everyone is dirty. I call BS on that.
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Old 01-07-2024, 05:52 PM
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There are legalities regarding political fund raising, and spending & accounting for those funds.

To say or imply that it's all a scam is just an excuse for saying that abuses can't or shouldn't be enforced and/or that it doesn't matter & everyone is dirty. I call BS on that.
Call it what you want...the enormous cost of campaigns/electioneering puts the average voter on the back burner. It is easy for corporations or big money donors to buy out the system.
When a representative goes to congress his/her priority is the big money donors. Lobbying is the art of bribery.
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Old 01-07-2024, 05:55 PM
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Call it what you want...the enormous cost of campaigns/electioneering puts the average voter on the back burner. It is easy for corporations or big money donors to buy out the system.
When a representative goes to congress his/her priority is the big money donors. Lobbying is the art of bribery.
Agreed - changes are needed.
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