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06-04-2015, 10:34 AM
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From what I know, an H1B worker cannot displace an American worker. So what is going one here could be quite illegal, especially if laid off workers are asked to train their replacements.
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That is quite true, when I came down on an H1B my prospective employer was required to advertise the position and prove that no American citizen could and would fulfill it. As there were only about 25 of us worldwide that met the requirements and the other 24 were happy where they were we were good to go. But AFAIK and H1B is the modern equivalent of the Colonial bond servant.
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06-04-2015, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
We need to seriously tighten up the H-1B regulations.
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Tell that to Bill Gates, he wants them even looser and unlimited.
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06-04-2015, 10:41 AM
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And that is exactly what they are all doing. What I cannot understand is why the schools do not encourage girls to take the STEM track. At Bell Canada our IT department was 50/50 and by and large the man had to work hard to stay up with the women. We are wasting 50% of our human resources on this country.
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06-04-2015, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
But it will work for gun control?
While you're planning the boycott, remember to include the new Star Wars flicks.
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I'm boycotting them.
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06-04-2015, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
Grass roots campaign then. Listen up Americans...don't frequent Disney parks, don't go to Disney movies or buy them on Netflix. Fat chance of that.
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If I had a choice between spending an all expenses paid day at a Central Florida theme park, or paying a $200 fine, I'd pay the fine. If the fine was $500, I'd suck it up and go to the theme park.
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06-04-2015, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
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Wow, what a sham? This is taking outsourcing to a whole new level.
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Edison relies on a loophole to skate around rules forbidding the use of cheap H-1B labor to replace existing domestic employees. Technically, Edison isn't the H-1B employer; Tata and Infosys are. This sleight of hand allows Edison to say, as it told The Times, that it is "not hiring H-1B visa workers to replace displaced employees." The contractors, Tata and Infosys, are doing the hiring. Edison says those firms "determine the composition of their own workforce." Because the outsourcing firms employ minimal American staffs themselves, the thousands of Indian workers they import aren't technically replacing Americans.
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Companies like Tata and Infosys acting as high tech pimps? So what is Feinstein and Boxer doing about this or do they even care? A boycott of Disney would get their attention.
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06-04-2015, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
Wow, what a sham? This is taking outsourcing to a whole new level.
Companies like Tata and Infosys acting as high tech pimps? So what is Feinstein and Boxer doing about this or do they even care? A boycott of Disney would get their attention.
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Tata and Infosys are really Indian owned companies dedicated to turning India into an High Tech power house.
Over the years Indian companies have garnered a good chunk of the US High Tech service.
Our politicians have really done a poor job in not promoting and protecting this sector of American industry, plus the American workers themselves were too quiet
and submissive.
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06-04-2015, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
But it will work for gun control?
While you're planning the boycott, remember to include the new Star Wars flicks.
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If you know who to boycott to make it work for gun control, I'm all ears.
The only Star Wars flick I ever saw was the first one. Crashing bore. Never went back.
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06-04-2015, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Tell that to Bill Gates, he wants them even looser and unlimited.
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No big surprise there. He's tried to obscure the actual Gates with his foundation, but he's always been a ruthless schmuck, just itching to drive anybody out of business who was inconvenient for his wealth building.
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06-04-2015, 12:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Tata and Infosys are really Indian owned companies dedicated to turning India into an High Tech power house.
Over the years Indian companies have garnered a good chunk of the US High Tech service.
Our politicians have really done a poor job in not promoting and protecting this sector of American industry, plus the American workers themselves were too quiet
and submissive.
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Tata and Infosys act mainly as a placement service. A BS degree from India in engineering is sheer garbage as there is no accreditation and are usually granted by small private 'colleges' not affiliated with any university. Not that there are that many world class universities in India, fewer than ten IIRC.
India does produce quite a few programmers and they are proficient in writing code and software maintenance. These are the types that Microsoft and others recruit in India for their Indian enterprises. The ones that get here on H1B's are usually poorly educated in fundamentals from what i have seen. We deal with very many in our customer base. Some 'mechanical engineers' cannot differentiate psi and bar.
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