Womens rights

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What about in "At Will" states. Do those laws cover hiring or just termination.

I mentioned federal laws. They refer to any adverse employment action, including hiring, firing, demotions, and failures to promote. In general, employment discrimination laws are exceptions to the at-will rule.

[ZeroJunk]

When I was a young man working in an office with three people one of the girls got pregnant a couple of times. I had to do her work for her while she was out. Didn't get paid any more. Never understood why her getting knocked up was my responsibility.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

When I was a young man working in an office with three people one of the girls got pregnant a couple of times. I had to do her work for her while she was out. Didn't get paid any more. Never understood why her getting knocked up was my responsibility.

See, me, I have no problem with this. I guess it's my sense of community.

I am all for treating women equal and helping in a reasonable way. Even unloading the truck when the truck needed to be unloaded while the women stayed on the floor earning commission just because of their sex. I see the sexes as equal not the same.

OK, in this scenario the man was discriminated again. I am fine with it. Because it made sense under the "equal not the same umbrella" which guided me.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by noonereal

My experience had always been the opposite. In the late 70s early 80s men were passed over all the time in favor of women based on sex. Right up until the mid 90s when I started my own business I never experienced anything but advantages for or women.



Never lesser pay, alWays softer demands for the same job, cleAr favoritism for the more attractive. Unquestionably favored for promotions.

so as liberal as I am I have always thought the women rights demands much ado about nothing.

It's hard to see something when you don't want to see it.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by barbara

It's hard to see something when you don't want to see it.

in practical terms, what are you saying?

I have a mom, wife, several and daughters. On top of that I am liberal in nature which means I look to help those oppressed and am predisposed to see oppression.

what is it that I did not want to see when I was young and women always got the nod before men, were paid the same but were never sent to unload the truck?

I am not anti womens rights as this threads shows....

Just what are you saying with that attempted drive by?

[icenine]

You may be liberal but sort of hypocritical. When it comes to you own daughter you are concerned about possible discrimination, but you seem to hold a very biased view toward women and their supposed "advantages" in the workplace based on your own keen analysis from your "experience."

It is well known that women do not get paid for the same work as men.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

You may be liberal but sort of hypocritical. When it comes to you own daughter you are concerned about possible discrimination, but you seem to hold a very biased view toward women and their supposed "advantages" in the workplace based on your own keen analysis from your "experience."

It is well known that women do not get paid for the same work as men.

For instance, he thought Trump's misogyny was "a riot".

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Boreas

For instance, he thought Trump's misogyny was "a riot".

Plus he called Hillary an "old woman"...

I guess he never thinks of his own daughter being of an age someday.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by icenine

Plus he called Hillary an "old woman"...

I guess he never thinks of his own daughter being of an age someday.

she is not old?

Sometimes this PC crap is extreme.

I submit this is a case of that.

BTW, everything is context and relative.

I go to the supermarket every Wednesday and ask the cashier for the "old man discount" in reference to myself. I refer to senior discounts as "old man discounts."

If you are old, you are old. I have always chosen descriptive words or phrases over conventional talk.

Anyway, this place has a habit of attacking posters not posts... it's ashame.

Why not just share your experiences of work place inequities so I may understand because frankly, generally I don't.

Thanks

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by noonereal

she is not old?

Sometimes this PC crap is extreme.

I submit this is a case of that.

BTW, everything is context and relative.

I go to the supermarket every Wednesday and ask the cashier for the "old man discount" in reference to myself. I refer to senior discounts as "old man discounts."

If you are old, you are old. I have always chosen descriptive words or phrases over conventional talk.

Anyway, this place has a habit of attacking posters not posts... it's ashame.

Why not just share your experiences of work place inequities so I may understand because frankly, generally I don't.

Thanks

You mentioned her age in the context of a disqualification for the presidency. Is this a criticism you would think to level against a man? She's 68. Trump is 2 years older. Bernie is 6 years older. I don't remember you mentioning their age.