The "Social Contract".

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by painter

Good point.

I thought about it and maybe the concent is considered given when our children are born ( a SSI number is issued at that time).
So we WILLINGLY accept FOR our children all the issues that follow.

Dunno...just saying...

Well, it's a little hard to explain things like old age benefits, social safety nets and the like to infants and fetuses (fetusi?), and obtain their consent to receive a SS number, now isn't it?

All I know is, I've had one since birth and never found it to be an issue at all.
I've been contributing since age 18 and would at least like to get my money back someday. Preferably when I need it most, which I surmise will be after I am too old and crotchety to work anymore.

Dave

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Well, it's a little hard to explain things like old age benefits, social safety nets and the like to infants and fetuses (fetusi?), and obtain their consent to receive a SS number, now isn't it?

All I know is, I've had one since birth and never found it to be an issue at all.
I've been contributing since age 18 and would at least like to get my money back someday. Preferably when I need it most, which I surmise will be after I am too old and crotchety to work anymore.

Dave

So you're holding out until the old part gets here.

With respect to your comments on the religions having their own form of social contract - as I have mentioned before, I picked up a book called "The Political Teachings of Jesus," which I have been trying to read, but keep getting distracted by things like a John Lennon biography, a Studs Terkel book on death and dying, and a Mickey Mantle Biography. In any event, the thesis of the book is that the teachings of Jesus, disregarding the religious meaning, provide a pretty good framework for organizing a society. I'll have to get back to you on the author's full development of that thesis.

Finally, as far as the consent of those operating under the social contract - the consent is implied. We live under a social order that restrains violence against one another, that protects one's property, and that operates for the general welfare of the people. We trade unrestrained action for security, and by co-existing in a civil society are presumed to have consented to the obligations of maintaining it.

Regards,

D-Ray

[BlueStreak]

Hmmm... That book sounds interesting, Don.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

So you're holding out until the old part gets here.

With respect to your comments on the religions having their own form of social contract - as I have mentioned before, I picked up a book called "The Political Teachings of Jesus," which I have been trying to read, but keep getting distracted by things like a John Lennon biography, a Studs Terkel book on death and dying, and a Mickey Mantle Biography. In any event, the thesis of the book is that the teachings of Jesus, disregarding the religious meaning, provide a pretty good framework for organizing a society. I'll have to get back to you on the author's full development of that thesis.

Finally, as far as the consent of those operating under the social contract - the consent is implied. We live under a social order that restrains violence against one another, that protects one's property, and that operates for the general welfare of the people. We trade unrestrained action for security, and by co-existing in a civil society are presumed to have consented to the obligations of maintaining it.

Regards,

D-Ray

Exactly, and even with those protections we keep our doors locked 24/7 simply because there are people in this area who get their jollies from breaking in on seniors and beating them to death.

[piece-itpete]

Charming isn't it? Hanging is too good for those idiots.

I had to get my SS number when I got my first job. I hope to be able to afford a decent box and dry cat food with an occassional can of Fancy Feast - if I can even retire.

Socrates did talk about the social contract more or less.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Exactly, and even with those protections we keep our doors locked 24/7 simply because there are people in this area who get their jollies from breaking in on seniors and beating them to death.

Probably some idiotic Baboons who are angry because old people are living off of their taxes. Or at least, that's how they see it.................

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I had to get my SS number when I got my first job. I hope to be able to afford a decent box and dry cat food with an occassional can of Fancy Feast - if I can even retire.

Obviously, the answer to that would be to enable employers find further reductions in labor costs, in conjunction with the stripping away of any "Socialist" safety nets. Thought Bubble---(Hmmm, I wonder how difficult it would be to outsource Petes job? Think of all the my his employer could save!)

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Whooooozipulat teeaky umphuweasits!

Dave

[piece-itpete]

LoL!

I'm pretty outsource proof selling to the construction market. Thank goodness.

I think the right way to fix SS is double or triple the withholding, and let Congress hold on to it till I need it.

Pete

[BlueStreak]

Really? You don't think that could be one through a sales center in New Dehli? You call the sales center, place your order, they send the bill of sale to the warehouse that ships directly to the customer...................

Think of all the money they could save that way.

Measure your head for the paper hat.

Dave