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Old 05-07-2018, 10:04 PM
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Wow. The Chicklet remark bothered you that much, huh?
Grow up, kiddo.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:09 PM
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Except that in the investigation/prosecutions that you reference, there is direct and ample evidence of a crime that has been commited. The Comey/Mueller investigation is an investigation in search of a crime. Quite a big difference.
Tell that to the ~20 people who have been indicted and half dozen who have been convicted in Mueller's first year. I'm pretty sure that there will be quite a few more indictments coming from Mueller and the SDNY. Are you really stupid enough to believe that there won't be? In case you haven't noticed, your Dear Leader hardly acts like an innocent man.
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:07 PM
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When it happens, whell will be here to tell us it's a travesty of justice, and he never liked Trump anyway, and Pence is a white knight!
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Old 05-08-2018, 01:06 AM
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Sure they do. So do theClarence Thomas hearings, the CIA (non) leak investigation....
Ken Starr went on from '94 to '98 and what did he get for his effort$$$?
Bill Clinton lying about a BJ and how lame was that?
Worse, he was impeached for lying under oath.
How about getting Trump under oath. If it was televised, Trump's dream will come true. It will be the largest watched event ever on TV.

And Mueller has a handful of guilty pleas and yet you claim he is looking for a crime!
Are you really this dense or lowering yourself to the Dotard?
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:17 AM
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He's not dense. He's just committed to making his stand, against us, with good or bad arguments, whatever he can get, as long as it's opposition to us. This mission defines him, and he will never waver.
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:20 AM
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Tell that to the ~20 people who have been indicted and half dozen who have been convicted in Mueller's first year.
NONE of whom have been indicted for anything to do with "collusion". That's the essential point of the judge's comments. Investigating an actual crime: that's fine. Destroying people's lives in search of a crime, not so much. But, hey, if the dutiful search for a crime leaves destruction in its wake that impacts only folks you have a political disagreement with, I guess that's just fine with you.
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:52 AM
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Ken Starr went on from '94 to '98 and what did he get for his effort$$$?
Bill Clinton lying about a BJ and how lame was that?
Worse, he was impeached for lying under oath.
How about getting Trump under oath. If it was televised, Trump's dream will come true. It will be the largest watched event ever on TV.

And Mueller has a handful of guilty pleas and yet you claim he is looking for a crime!
Are you really this dense or lowering yourself to the Dotard?
You apparently need a history lesson, or your post is an example of historical revisionism. Whitewater was about far more than that. There were shenanigans galore at Madison Guarantee, the S&L operated by Clinton buddy Jim McDougall, that eventually cost the taxpayers $60 MM to bail out. Jim and his wife Susan were convicted and sentenced.

Meanwhile, at the Small Business administration, David Hale went on to serve time for fraud in connection with a loan he made to the Clintons: $300,000 that was never repaid. He claimed the Clintons pressured him into making the loan, but that charge was never corroborated.

See, the difference is that there were actual crimes that had been committed in the Whitewater sceanrio, some of which were already being investigated by the time Robert Fiske and Ken Starr showed up, and some of those had the Clinton's fingerprints on them. That includes the work Hillary did for the Rose Law Firm as legal counsel for Madison Guarantee.

Remember how no one could find the Rose Law Firm billing records for two years after they were subpoenaed. Then one day, they magically show up...only copies though. So the person who magically found them didn't see fit to provide the originals. The delay of producing those records likely kept the Resolution Trust Corporation from filing suit against the Clintons for the losses it incurred as part of the Whitewater Land Development fiasco. Remarkably, the same day Resolution Trust closed its doors, the billing records magically appeared.

Mueller has been sent out to search for crimes. That's quite a big difference.

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Old 05-08-2018, 08:02 AM
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NONE of whom have been indicted for anything to do with "collusion". That's the essential point of the judge's comments. Investigating an actual crime: that's fine. Destroying people's lives in search of a crime, not so much. But, hey, if the dutiful search for a crime leaves destruction in its wake that impacts only folks you have a political disagreement with, I guess that's just fine with you.
You actually believe that Mueller and the SDNY aren't investigating actual crimes (or that the crimes Manafort is currently charged with aren't crimes)? I suppose if that helps you sleep at night, continue believing the unbelievable. Once Mueller's and SDNY's hammers come down on the extended Trump crime family, it will be interesting to hear the spin you come up with to help you rationalize your continued support of such an obvious con man. I'm guessing you'll just parrot Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest of the wingnut media, as you always seem to do.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:25 AM
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You actually believe that Mueller and the SDNY aren't investigating actual crimes (or that the crimes Manafort is currently charged with aren't crimes)? I suppose if that helps you sleep at night, continue believing the unbelievable. Once Mueller's and SDNY's hammers come down on the extended Trump crime family, it will be interesting to hear the spin you come up with to help you rationalize your continued support of such an obvious con man.
Sure I do, and there's ample proof of that. For example, Comey told Congress during his testimony that no one at the FBI thought that Flynn had lied to them. And yet, Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI. Now, you can speculate all you want about why Flynn agreed to plea, but there's ZERO evidence that Flynn's plea has anything to do with Trump's campaign or Russian "collusion".

You can also speculate all you want about the other pleas, none of which indicate the Flynn has any evidence of "Russian collusion". The indictments also have nothing to do with "Russian collusion".

So, if Mueller's charter is to investigate "Russian collusion", where's evidence of the crime? There is none, and Mueller can apparently look for one all he wants, and destroy anyone he wants in the process. Unless, of course, some adults step in and reign him in.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:40 AM
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Uh huh. And Donny never lies, Limblow is a paragon of truth, and Hannity sticks to the facts. Whell’s World.
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