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04-03-2023, 10:14 AM
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This is not the time
....to form a Third party and this is already happening with the group called "No Labels" (no brains is more like it) has already gained ballot access in AZ, CO, AK & OR. Three people I recognize behind this is Lieberman, Hogan and Manchin.
With the EC system, Republicans already have an advantage by being able to win the WH without the popular vote. And now this is going to make it a lot more easier for Trump, assuming he survives the multiple indictments expected.
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Uncertainty over the $70 million No Labels ballot effort has set off major alarm bells in Democratic circles and raised concerns among Republican strategists, who have launched their own research projects to figure out the potential impacts. As Lieberman spoke, the Arizona Democratic Party filed a lawsuit to block No Labels from ballot access in that state on procedural grounds. Matt Bennett of the centrist Democratic think tank Third Way has argued that the plot is “going to reelect Trump,” and Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee has accused No Labels of wanting “to play the role of spoiler.”
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https://www.thebulwark.com/how-the-n...2024-election/
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04-03-2023, 06:18 PM
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A third party is obviously Trump's best chance to win in 2024, if the anti-Trump vote can be split. The people behind this certainly know this, or should know it. WTF is wrong with Lieberman? He probably thinks he can gain power this way, then close ranks to defeat Trump. Has he forgotten how the Bernie Bros. sabotaged Hillary?
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04-03-2023, 07:26 PM
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Joe Lieberman can go perform an anatomically impossible sexual act upon himself. Not particularly enchanted with Manchin. Hogan's an OK guy for a Republican.
Where's the Sinema Bun?
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04-04-2023, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
A third party is obviously Trump's best chance to win in 2024, if the anti-Trump vote can be split. The people behind this certainly know this, or should know it. WTF is wrong with Lieberman? He probably thinks he can gain power this way, then close ranks to defeat Trump. Has he forgotten how the Bernie Bros. sabotaged Hillary?
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Or Hillary sabotaged Bernie?
My poor grand daughter...she was involved with this feel the Bern movement in Brooklyn. Her first introduction to politics was marked with great enthusiasm until the shenanigans.
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04-04-2023, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
A third party is obviously Trump's best chance to win in 2024, if the anti-Trump vote can be split. The people behind this certainly know this, or should know it. WTF is wrong with Lieberman? He probably thinks he can gain power this way, then close ranks to defeat Trump. Has he forgotten how the Bernie Bros. sabotaged Hillary?
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If that were I hope at some point that splitting anti-tRump vote contingent would realize that by splitting they're giving TFG a better chance at winning.The Democratic party would need to heavily push that message. That along with encouraging an anti-tRump vote to become a pro-Biden (or whichever Dem candidate) vote. The coming prosecutions won't budge the cult faithful but the rest of us need to be presented in vivid color reasons that the Republican party needs to be flushed.
A third party, if it's something split from the GOP, could be a big help to the Democrats.
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04-04-2023, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RickeyM
If that were I hope at some point that splitting anti-tRump vote contingent would realize that by splitting they're giving TFG a better chance at winning.The Democratic party would need to heavily push that message. That along with encouraging an anti-tRump vote to become a pro-Biden (or whichever Dem candidate) vote. The coming prosecutions won't budge the cult faithful but the rest of us need to be presented in vivid color reasons that the Republican party needs to be flushed.
A third party, if it's something split from the GOP, could be a big help to the Democrats.
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A non-Trump 'Republican' spin-off gives Republicans who don't like Trump somewhere to go besides the Dem offering. The question is, what would Republican Trump dislikers do if the third party wasn't there. They might vote Trump anyway, or vote for the Dem, or stay home. Depending on how the split went, such a party could be good or bad for Trump.
A more center-left party that steals Dem votes probably elects Trump.
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04-06-2023, 07:20 AM
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FYI - here in DuPage county Illinois local elections have had "no label" ballots for our local and township elections for decades. We've lived.here for five decades and been handed ballots with party titles like the "Candidate Nominating Party" and the "Civic Betterment Party". It continues to the present time. Back before the year 2000, there were rarely any Democrats running for local office so it really didnt matter all that much. But since this county turned blue, it hasnt changed. Why the Democratic Party of DuPage hasn't done something about this is a mystery. Many of us have asked, particularly since Sean Casten won Henry Hyde's former US House seat in 2016, which had been in Republican hands since the early 70's. But we never get a straight answer from the local Democratic Party.
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