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Old 12-01-2014, 08:46 PM
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:48 PM
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He sure makes you seem like an idiot blowhard, though most others do too.
OK, this is my thread and I want no more of this shit. Goes for you too, Tom.

Of course Zeke is a dick. Everyone knows. But who isn't? There are bunches of dicks around here. Even I have my moments....

But we don't have to be dicks all the time, do we?
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Old 12-01-2014, 09:01 PM
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Old 12-01-2014, 10:22 PM
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The problem I have with all of these opinions of cause and effect does little or nothing to determine what needs to be done now. Un ring the bell or whatever. IMO we can blame racism, entitlements, whatever from now until the end of time and it won't change anything.
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Old 12-01-2014, 11:53 PM
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Who has owned you.
You will never, ever, as long as you live, ever be able to get the best of me.

You could be having the best day of your life, and I could be having the worst day of mine and I could still get up off my deathbed and whoop your sorry ass. .
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:28 AM
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According to the Cleveland Media Group crime is hereditary:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...s_history.html
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:33 AM
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You will never, ever, as long as you live, ever be able to get the best of me.

You could be having the best day of your life, and I could be having the worst day of mine and I could still get up off my deathbed and whoop your sorry ass. .
Before or after figuring out I'd put you there without trying?
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:36 AM
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Old 12-02-2014, 06:40 AM
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The problem I have with all of these opinions of cause and effect does little or nothing to determine what needs to be done now. Un ring the bell or whatever. IMO we can blame racism, entitlements, whatever from now until the end of time and it won't change anything.
One step at a time, ZJ.

Depending on what causes crime, a given idea of what to do about it may work well, or poorly. Like, if crime is caused by people not caring if others disapprove of what they do, we have to teach kids to be more social and connected to others. Or, if crime is caused by people not fearing punishment, we have to make punishment more certain, and fearsome.

Or if Dostoevsky is right, work programs might be a good idea....

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Old 12-02-2014, 07:05 AM
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I just don't buy that anyone goes into a life of crime.........simply because his mother fed him on food stamps. To my mind it's a ridiculous notion, regardless of who wrote however many pages about it.

And the obvious attempt of American rightists to tie criminal behavior to "entitlements" in such a broad sense is nothing more than mass manipulation with a purely political end in mind.

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