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Old 12-02-2014, 07:10 AM
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Some of the biggest crooks were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. But when entitlement is mentioned the first thought is to the other end of the social spectrum.


What the WASP need to understand is the entitlements they were born with in this country. Ones that the simple fact of being born white entitles you to in this country. This that are taken for granted without a thought too.

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Old 12-02-2014, 07:11 AM
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According to the Cleveland Media Group crime is hereditary:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...s_history.html
If true, that would suggest the that the things to do are eugenic breeding, or even genetic engineering....

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Old 12-02-2014, 07:16 AM
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According to the Cleveland Media Group crime is hereditary:

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...s_history.html
That wasn't at all the point of that article. If anything, it makes the argument of nurture over nature.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:21 AM
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That wasn't at all the point of that article. If anything, it makes the argument of nurture over nature.
I don't recall it containing either nature or nurture arguments. It just reported some family history.

Is it nature or nurture? Yes.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:24 AM
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I don't recall it containing either nature or nurture arguments. It just reported some family history.

Is it nature or nurture? Yes.
That is nurture (i.e., the environment in which a child is raised, as opposed to his genes).

There has been ample research on the negative impacts of domestic violence upon children in the home.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...adb_story.html
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:10 AM
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I just don't buy that anyone goes into a life of crime.........simply because his mother fed him on food stamps. To my mind it's a ridiculous notion, regardless of who wrote however many pages about it.

And the obvious attempt of American rightists to tie criminal behavior to "entitlements" in such a broad sense is nothing more than mass manipulation with a purely political end in mind.

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One could argue that the expansion of entitlements was political.

If they did not overwhelmingly vote Democrat the entitlements would be reined in.

In the long run they are unsustainable.
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:18 AM
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One could argue that the expansion of entitlements was political.

If they did not overwhelmingly vote Democrat the entitlements would be reined in.

In the long run they are unsustainable.
Spend a few days at the LBJ Presidential Library in Austin and it may change your opinions about entitlements. It's an awesomely inspiring place.

The passage of "entitlement" legislation was indeed political, as is every single piece of legislation. That doesn't make it wrong/bad.

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."

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Old 12-02-2014, 08:19 AM
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Ones that the simple fact of being born white entitles you to in this country
If your parents have stuff you inherit it. If your relatives own or are in high positions in small business which is where most job creation is they hire their relatives' and friends kids.

If you quit school or even finish and don't learn anything of value to any employer whose fault is that. Oh, the schools of course.
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:28 AM
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Spend a few days at the LBJ Presidential Library in Austin and it may change your opinions about entitlements. It's an awesomely inspiring place.

The passage of "entitlement" legislation was indeed political, as is every single piece of legislation. That doesn't make it wrong/bad.

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."

- Mahatma Ghandi
Also any nation's greatest asset iis its citizens, would not be a wise move to husband that asset?
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Old 12-02-2014, 08:30 AM
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One could argue that the expansion of entitlements was political.

If they did not overwhelmingly vote Democrat the entitlements would be reined in.

In the long run they are unsustainable.
Someone needs to tell the Dutch, the Danes and the Swedes that they are doing the impossible.
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