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Old 03-01-2012, 11:51 AM
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Why does everyone on the right forget that 40% of the stimulus package was tax cuts. Did you not see the Making Work Pay tax credit? The payroll tax cuts put money in working people's pockets every week. Employers were given tax incentives to hire people. Much of the stimulus also went to unemployment benefits, which put money back in the economy. Were you not aware of any of that money that was given back to the people, Bill. Remember also that the stimulus package was the first priority. It was passed before any health care legislation.

I am disappointed with the form the health care reform package finally took. It became a bad example of sausage making. As a lot of people here believe, we would have been better with a single payer plan, but there was no way the GOP would allow the "Kenyan Soci@list" to pass such a broad plan. That would have created significant relief for employers, who would no longer have to compete for employees by providing health benefits - the cost of which they had little control over. While I would have preferred that Obama push harder for single payer, I have to believe that he had a better grasp on political reality than I do. The package did achieve some reforms, and might be something that could be built on. At a personal level, I'm glad that, as a result of the reform, we are still able to provide medical coverage to my 22 and 24 year old sons.

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Old 03-01-2012, 05:54 PM
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Say it ain't so Dave,

I would have never invaded Afghanistan, not with ground troops.

I would have tried to control Iraq, it makes a great buffer to keep Iran in line.

Remember I served as a combat officer, and I am the Last one that wants our blood in the sands of the ME. These people don't want us, they don't like us and they enjoy killing Infidels. Let them kill each other, and we can clean up the mess when they are finished.

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Old 03-01-2012, 09:23 PM
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I completely agree with one of your posts. This is worrying!
What a surprise Erik, "A"

I even like Canada and Canadians, can you believe that "A"

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Old 03-02-2012, 01:05 PM
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Don't hold back Dave

TD, not boring. Considering how much of the winners' platform gets passed, voting for personality is, um, not the thing that's good.

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Old 03-02-2012, 01:19 PM
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Well, for crying out loud, Pete. Who hasn't noticed that the guy lies like crazy, and flip-flops more than a fish out of water?

As I understand it, many Republicans don't like him because he's the only person in America they regard as a bigger slick tongued liar than Obama.

Am I wrong?

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Old 03-02-2012, 01:31 PM
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Speaking of flipflops, wasn't Obamas voting record about equal with Kucinich's?

I don't like him 'cause as one guy said, he was the Governor of Mass - how conservative can he be.

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Old 03-03-2012, 04:46 PM
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I am on my parents insurance thanks to one of the provisions of the Affordable Healthcare Act. While I agree with the sentiment that it should be a single payer system I also feel the need to stand up and say that I've been using my insurance on preventative medicine in order to be healthier in the future. The plan? To not cost the tax payer or my employer as much money for healthcare that I don't need.

I feel like the pull on the right to repeal the AHCA is because as more and more provisions of the bill keep kicking in more and more people will have experiences like mine. Access to dental, access to glasses, real help quitting smoking, knowing what's happening inside of my body etc.

While the President has been a darling for big business, soft on the banks and imperialistic with his foreign policy he's also done a lot of things that a lot of people have been realizing that they really like.

In comparison, every promise made by the Republican candidates has been either regressive, poised towards the rich or forewarning of big-government fascism (IE. Rick Santorum).
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:13 PM
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In comparison, every promise made by the Republican candidates has been either regressive, poised towards the rich or forewarning of big-government fascism (IE. Rick Santorum).
You're pretty perceptive for a young lad.
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Interesting OpEd piece by Senator Snowe in todays WaPo. She feels that we will be wasting our time looking for Congress to heal itself. That to me was an oblique suggestion that we as voters need to throw the bums out.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:57 AM
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Interesting OpEd piece by Senator Snowe in todays WaPo. She feels that we will be wasting our time looking for Congress to heal itself. That to me was an oblique suggestion that we as voters need to throw the bums out.
Well, I know the republicans are rejoicing over her retirement. Even if a dem takes her place, at least you know what you're dealing with. I personally think she has been suffering some sort of mental issues for the last few years. Good call on her part to hang it up, it's time.
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