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Old 01-28-2011, 03:40 PM
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I had been in Germany for about 3 years at the time and had been most everywhere within driving distance and wanted to experience something completely different. I was living in Fulda, the likely focal point of any Russian invasion of Western Europe, and wanted to see what the "enemy" was all about.

The visit largely confirmed what I thought to be true, having been across East Germany and into East Berlin a few times. The biggest impression was the scarcity of common foodstuffs. A grocery store we went into in Moscow had stacks of bread and dried fish and not much else. Also, the accounting for/spying on western visitors was palpable within the hotels and on any formal tours/outings. We were left alone though as we wandered on our own through Leningrad and Moscow.

I remember the feeling of intense relief when our plane touched down in Vienna after our visit. It was like a burden had been lifted and we'd only been there 8 days.
I'd love to visit such a place. Its just too bad that I was born a couple of years after the Soviet Union collapsed I do plan to visit North Korea at some point in my life, though.

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A London site that Pete would go nuts over is the Churchill War Rooms. Very cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_War_Rooms
I go to London once every week. Jealous?
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:14 AM
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Agreed about DC being free, I sound like a big enough cheapskate without mentioning it! Lol.

I've visited the war rooms Heck I was dragged all over the place there. The single neatest ww2 site I saw was the underground Nazi hospital on Jersey though, at least through a kids' eyes.

Rob, what is the TOC-H society? Yuo could be a legacy

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Old 01-28-2011, 12:05 PM
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Close enough to the Kamchatka Peninsula to see it on the horizon, and the Soviet ships and aircraft that had come to chase us off.

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Old 01-28-2011, 12:46 PM
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Close enough to the Kamchatka Peninsula to see it on the horizon, and the Soviet ships and aircraft that had come to chase us off.

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Yep, been out that way too (on the island of Shemya, AK). If you like isolation, it might be for you. Otherwise, I don't recommend it.

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Yep, been out that way too (on the island of Shemya, AK). If you like isolation, it might be for you. Otherwise, I don't recommend it.

We were much closer to Petropovlosk. The Soviets had a sub base there, back in the early eighties. They were not happy that we came to visit.

But, you know what? We were all just young men, sent by our respective governments to do a job.

So, I take it Shemya wasn't exactly a place to party hard and pick up babes?

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We were much closer to Petropovlosk. The Soviets had a sub base there, back in the early eighties. They were not happy that we came to visit.

But, you know what? We were all just young men, sent by our respective governments to do a job.

So, I take it Shemya wasn't exactly a place to party hard and pick up babes?

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Nope, the only babes wore Air Force blue and there were very few of them. Shemya is owned by the Air Force where it maintained facilities for spying on Soviet missile launches from the Kamchatka peninsula. As you might surmise, it was a very high security place. It was cold, foggy and windy year round. I've been their twice for 3-4 at at time. One of the prettiest sights in the world is seeing the airplane land that you're taking out of that place.
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Not a well traveled person here. However, one of the more meaningful places I have visited in my trips to NYC is the John Street Church. It is the first Methodist church in the nation. It's location in the midst of the financial district in the city adds to its meaningfulness for me. The quiet little church building and its congregation have endured despite the monuments to wealth that surround it. I always feel a strong sense of peace when I visit it. The only other place where I have felt a similar sense of reverence is the Baseball HOF in Cooperstown.

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Nope, the only babes wore Air Force blue and there were very few of them. Shemya is owned by the Air Force where it maintained facilities for spying on Soviet missile launches from the Kamchatka peninsula. As you might surmise, it was a very high security place. It was cold, foggy and windy year round. I've been their twice for 3-4 at at time. One of the prettiest sights in the world is seeing the airplane land that you're taking out of that place.
One of the prettiest sights I've ever seen was the hood ornament on the truck I was driving whenever we left Calumet, OK.

That, and the '62 Chevy the drunk who picked us up was driving whenever we finally quit and were hitching our way out of Winner, SD.

Pretty much everything else that I saw between the two all looked the same through the windshield of a Massy 410.

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The TOC-H was the name given to a soldier's house in Belgium during WW I, just type it into Google, Wikipedia goes into considerable detail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toc_H

And I got the name of the church wrong, it is All Hallows by the Tower, and that makes a deal of sense.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:49 PM
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That's really neat Rob. Have you ever been in contact with them?

See Blue, you've got something in common with Palin! Lmao!

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