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Old 09-02-2011, 02:20 AM
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All this weeping and wailing for a bunch of heavily armed nutcases is getting old.
That's pretty much how I see it. Janet Reno did little more than help clean up the gene pool.

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Old 09-01-2011, 02:12 PM
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Any organization's first aim is to perpetuate the organization, even at the price of abandoning their initial purpose.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:28 PM
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Any organization's first aim is to perpetuate the organization, even at the price of abandoning their initial purpose.
It is rather bizarre how that works. I guess it all comes down to territoriality and the sense of possession and belonging.

All the lofty ideals go out the window when the organization's leaders feel there's a threat to the status quo.
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Old 09-02-2011, 08:22 AM
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To simplify this argument some, couldn't they have just given up? Then
have their day in court to air any grievances with the government.

But they instead held out wanting some kind of apocalyptic ending to the situation.



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Old 09-02-2011, 10:35 AM
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To simplify this argument some, couldn't they have just given up? Then
have their day in court to air any grievances with the government.

But they instead held out wanting some kind of apocalyptic ending to the situation.



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Well, see, if you've made your bones PREACHING this ending...
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:48 AM
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To simplify this argument some, couldn't they have just given up? Then
have their day in court to air any grievances with the government.

But they instead held out wanting some kind of apocalyptic ending to the situation.



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And, there you have it. Self fullfilling prophecy.

"I prophesy that my neighbor will shoot me!", (Then I go next door and commence to raping his wife, knowing he has a gun.).

"SEE! SEE! Angels came to me in a vision and told me I would be shot!!!!!"

No s*it, Sherlock...................

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Old 09-02-2011, 01:38 PM
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To simplify this argument some, couldn't they have just given up? Then
have their day in court to air any grievances with the government.

But they instead held out wanting some kind of apocalyptic ending to the situation.



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You're right, they should have surrendered.

Then again, the government shouldn't have created this situation in the first place.

And as I've said before, it wasn't necessary.

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