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Old 09-02-2011, 10:35 AM
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I love saying, wait and see the fruits of what we've done America doesn't think small, never have.Pete
Yep. Sometimes, we don't think.
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:40 AM
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Even our screwups are big

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Old 09-02-2011, 12:20 PM
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This is by no means an outlandish statement. If one has read about bin Laden's motivations, one of the larger ones was that resented that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia relied upon (infidel) American troops to kick Saddam out of Kuwait. Bin Laden was feeling his oats after being part of kicking the USSR out of Afghanistan and wanted to be part of a similar effort to defend the cradle of Islam against the secular thug to the north.

It makes a lot more sense than Shrub's "They attacked us because they hate our freedoms."
Pete and yourself are correct in this regard.

We maintained a presence is the Middle East by moving our troops from Saudi Arabia into Iraq. We went to Iraq because we could justify it under international law.

Shrub's statement is typical of politician's who don't wish to expose their real agenda.

Besides, Americans love to feel noble whenever they go to war.

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Old 09-02-2011, 12:34 PM
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Great article here:

http://www.americanpendulum.com/2011...can-terrorist/
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:50 PM
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Pitt fan, I see.

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Old 09-02-2011, 02:44 PM
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Pitt fan, I see.

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Old 09-02-2011, 03:56 PM
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Bill has nailed this one.


.....btw.....GO BIG RED!!!!!
Didn't know that you were a Sooner fan. Boomer Sooner!!!!!

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Old 09-02-2011, 05:16 PM
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Didn't know that you were a Sooner fan. Boomer Sooner!!!!!

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Lol....I bleed Husker red baby!!! I have much respect for your Sooners though Don. I miss the days of the Big red-head and the moonshiners son squaring off.

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Old 09-02-2011, 06:52 PM
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Not going to read everything in this thread so I hope that what I am posting has not already been posted. All you need to know about why we invaded Iraq can be found here.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Disbanded in 1995 PNAC was the neo-con party that took control in 2000. Search through the pages and read the papers written by these kooks. Iraq was no mystery. It had been in the planning for a long time. 9/11 was just the excuse to go kill some Iraqi Islamofascist (whoever the hell they are)

One interesting note, The signers of the Statement of Principals for PNAC http://www.newamericancentury.org/st...principles.htm included all the big players, except G W Bush. Instead Jeb Bush signed. He lost the governorship in Florida, and "W" won Texas. That made "W" the one to be groomed to stand in as President while Cheney and the rest of the PNAC minions implemented their plan to protect and project US interests using brute military force.

It is just that simple. There is no conspiracy theory. It was posted on the web for the whole world to read back then and now.
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:58 PM
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not going to read everything in this thread so i hope that what i am posting has not already been posted. All you need to know about why we invaded iraq can be found here.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

disbanded in 1995 pnac was the neo-con party that took control in 2000. Search through the pages and read the papers written by these kooks. Iraq was no mystery. It had been in the planning for a long time. 9/11 was just the excuse to go kill some iraqi islamofascist (whoever the hell they are)

one interesting note, the signers of the statement of principals for pnac http://www.newamericancentury.org/st...principles.htm included all the big players, except g w bush. Instead jeb bush signed. He lost the governorship in florida, and "w" won texas. That made "w" the one to be groomed to stand in as president while cheney and the rest of the pnac minions implemented their plan to protect and project us interests using brute military force.

It is just that simple. There is no conspiracy theory. It was posted on the web for the whole world to read back then and now.
qft!!!!
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