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Old 12-15-2016, 07:44 AM
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OK, Finn. You win. Based on this hit piece in Time, Trump MUST be the Russian equivalent of the Manchurian candidate.

Isn't it odd that no one wants to mention Hillary's financial history with Russia anymore?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-clin...ons-1469997195

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...pany.html?_r=0
In other words, "I lost the argument. Now let's change the subject and try to further obfuscate."

Cut the shit out, Whell.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:13 AM
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Cutting the shit out is exactly what he never does, no matter what. He's getting something he really wants from doing this. Maybe it's a fantasy reward feeling that he's a brave soldier in the war on liberalism. Or else it's money.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:24 AM
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(H)e's a brave soldier in the war on liberalism...
...who rabidly defends Putin (just as his Trumpenfuhrer does) while Putin actively wages a war on liberal democracy around the world. Quite the patriot he is.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:43 AM
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The 'kids in Macedonia' report from Buzzfeed. Must-read if you missed it when it came out. A part of how the fake news got all-over Facebook.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilver...Bx7#.rnoObQ7J9
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:45 AM
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You're an disingenuous troll, Whell. The NYTimes correctly reported that the CIA assessed that Russia tried to help Trump by hurting Hillary, but that there wasn't full consensus among the intelligence agencies on the motive. There was, however, no disagreement that Russia was trying to disrupt/influence the election. While doing so, they only targeted Hillary (with whom Putin had an axe to grind). I guess that somehow proves to you that they were somehow agnostic as to who won.

Just cut the shit out, Tovarich. Are you trying to win the "Russian Order of Friendship" award like the SoS nominee?
Before you resort to the time-honored lefty tactic of name calling as a debate tool, let me suggest that, as usual, your facts are screwed up. The NY Times article did not state this.

Your spin on the article makes it sounds like the CIA was suggesting that hacks were targeting Hillary, and Trump was somehow the accidental beneficiary. While that spin may be closer to the truth, its NOT what was reported in the NY Time article.

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

“We now have high confidence that they hacked the D.N.C. and the R.N.C., and conspicuously released no documents” from the Republican organization, one senior administration official said, referring to the Russians.

The RNC was NOT successfully hacked, Again, no proof that there was ever an attempt to "promote Trump." PERIOD.

You and the NY Times both need to clean up your reporting of the facts.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:47 AM
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...who rabidly defends Putin (just as his Trumpenfuhrer does) while Putin actively wages a war on liberal democracy around the world. Quite the patriot he is.
I've asked this before and you whiffed on it, so I'll ask it again:

Please point me to a single post where I've defended Putin.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:49 AM
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The 'kids in Macedonia' report from Buzzfeed. Must-read if you missed it when it came out. A part of how the fake news got all-over Facebook.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilver...Bx7#.rnoObQ7J9
I saw a lengthy feature on this town and these people wherein they interviewed several of the hackers. Meanwhile, Whell parrots Rush Limbaugh who says the biggest purveyors of "fake news" are the WashPost and NYTimes.

Maybe I should start a thread on Russia's state-sponsored athletic doping just to watch Whell deny it.
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:50 AM
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I've asked this before and you whiffed on it, so I'll ask it again:

Please point me to a single post where I've defended Putin.
It's the entire point of this thread, Tovarich. Own it.
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:54 AM
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It's the entire point of this thread, Tovarich. Own it.
No, it's not.
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Old 12-15-2016, 11:00 AM
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It's the entire point of this thread, Tovarich. Own it.
Happy to. And as I suspected, you can't answer the question.
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