Zimmerman trial starts today.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by barbara

What makes you think that Martin attacked Zimmerman?
We don't have any idea who threw the first punch.

But we do know who had a gun got out of their car and stalked the other.



Barney

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by stereocuuple

if tervon had been 23 would that make it less of a crime?

Yes. We have a social obligation and an obligation from God to protect our children. Every crime is worse when out most vulnerable are victimized.

if he was white?

Yes, Zim would not have walked in the first place if the child were white.

if he was armed?

No.

if geroge zimmerman had died as a result of his injuries would mr martin be guilty of murder?

No, but he would have been tried.

there can be no doubt that mr zimmerman caused the incident.

Then what do you suggest he be convicted of?

there is also no reason for mr martin to attack him.

WE don't know if that occured.

If he did and he lived he could have claimed he stood his ground.

if mr martin was truly in fear then he had a cell ph. he should have called the police or ran to a nearby home and asked for help.

This is an unreasonable expectation under stress and given the fact that he was a young black male. The reality is the police are generally not seen as an ally but this group.

this is all im asking anyone to consider

I considered it and feel strongly that Zim be convicted of manslaughter.

Now you be honest. If a white kid was stalked and then killed by a black man with a hoodie who had studied martial arts, had a gun and had a verifiable history of believing that white men were criminals if they were in his neighborhood would you be for setting him free?

[Zeke]

It doesn't matter who threw the first punch, Zims initiated an incident via stalking then escalated it to deadly force. He's the Bad Guy.

[CarlV]

Originally Posted by Zeke

It doesn't matter who threw the first punch, Zims initiated an incident via stalking then escalated it to deadly force. He's the Bad Guy.

Indeed, he wanted to be a cop so bad nothing else mattered.


Carl

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Oerets

But we do know who had a gun got out of their car and stalked the other.



Barney

Right....

[Oerets]

Don't know about anyone else, but I was chuckling when all the defense witness's were testifying just how bad Zippy was a MMA and collage. RIGHT!



Barney

[Charles]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Don't you have to go to work?

I do, I did, and I made the world a little bit better place.

Now I'm home, I'm hot, I'm tired, and I'm trying to ingest enough Sam Adams to give a shit.

I don't think it's gonna happen tonite. Hell, I don't even have the energy to be a wise ass.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by JJIII

All the way through this thread, IMOH.

You noticed that too.

Chas

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Charles

You noticed that too.

Chas

The longer it goes on... the worse it gets.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by JJIII

The longer it goes on... the worse it gets.

Just curious.... What difference does it make if we discuss the issue or not? If we have strong opinions and enjoy the exchange of information?

Sure, a lot of assumptions and speculation... But this whole trial is built on assumptions and speculation since there is only one version of what happened and that version comes from the shooter.

It must be of interest to you since you keep coming to read the thread...

Don't mean to come off sounding like a wise ass, but am genuinely curious as to why you continue to participate in this thread.