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02-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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Holy crap Blue - agreement! Cheers.
I drove through Youngstown yesterday, first time in a long time. It really does look bad.
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Believe it or not, Pete, it's been worse. At least now a lot of the mess is gone. Where there were once dilapidated and abandoned steel mills there are now empty fields, with a few relatively new-ish businesses here and there.
And the old abandoned and burned out neighborhoods have been razed. It's still in sad shape, but twenty years ago, it looked like a war zone. An unbelievable mess, rivaling the ruins of Detroit.
A long, long way to go before it's a decent place to live again, though.
I'm glad to have gotten a glimpse of the tail end of Y'towns glory days as a kid though.
It's sad knowing future generations will grow up having never seen Americas heavy industry at the height of it's glory, or met the men who worked the mighty mills. But I have the memory to reflect on.
Dave
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03-01-2011, 01:27 PM
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Believe it or not, Pete, it's been worse. At least now a lot of the mess is gone. Where there were once dilapidated and abandoned steel mills there are now empty fields, with a few relatively new-ish businesses here and there.
And the old abandoned and burned out neighborhoods have been razed. It's still in sad shape, but twenty years ago, it looked like a war zone. An unbelievable mess, rivaling the ruins of Detroit.
A long, long way to go before it's a decent place to live again, though.
I'm glad to have gotten a glimpse of the tail end of Y'towns glory days as a kid though.
It's sad knowing future generations will grow up having never seen Americas heavy industry at the height of it's glory, or met the men who worked the mighty mills. But I have the memory to reflect on.
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Agreed, but I don't think there's room for 'real' men in the brave new America.
Pete
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03-04-2011, 12:54 PM
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Agreed, but I don't think there's room for 'real' men in the brave new America.
Pete
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Who were, in large part----union.
Dave
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Last edited by BlueStreak; 03-04-2011 at 01:02 PM.
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02-25-2011, 02:32 PM
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No kidding, sadly.
To be fair I went right through downtown, and that's often the worst part.
And hey everyone, GMs doing well. Buy an American car for goodness sakes! My dads' LaCrosse (the 'e' on the end makes it fancy ) is a really nice car that stands up to foriegn comparison.
As long as one is avail in the class you're looking at of course
Pete
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02-25-2011, 02:41 PM
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I need to age a few years before I enter Buick's targeted demographic (in this country anyway). I've heard Buick's are considered the cats meow in China.
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02-25-2011, 02:53 PM
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Buicks are the Cadillacs of China
I drive old man cars lol.
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02-25-2011, 03:00 PM
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I am getting bloody tired of living in Baghdad on the Potomac, BG&E can't keep the power on for 10 minutes at a time, another shining example of efficient private industry.
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02-25-2011, 04:11 PM
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i am getting bloody tired of living in baghdad on the potomac, bg&e can't keep the power on for 10 minutes at a time, another shining example of efficient private industry.
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02-26-2011, 07:23 AM
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I suppose theat Flicker & Flash had the excuse of high winds for the lousy performance yesterday, but as they have defaced nearly every tree in Maryland I do not see why they cannot maintain the electicity. It was off - on - off - on - off - on all bloody afternoon. The 13 years I lived in Ottawa there was one power outage.
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03-01-2011, 08:27 PM
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Yeah...the Chinese are doing a wonderful job with the "General".
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