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11-01-2012, 12:57 PM
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So outsourcing is OK?
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It's not outsourcing to build a plant in a foreign country to serve that market. I guess we should fry chicken here and keep it hot while we air freight it to China for their KFC's.
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11-01-2012, 01:06 PM
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So let me wander here for a minute. Jeep opens a brand spankin' new state-of-the-art plant in China. It booms. Their per unit cost is 25% less. They're NOT going to start importing them? I don't 'buy' it.
Unless Jeeps get old soggy and cold during transport
I'm having fun with this. I'm all for GM & Ford (heck on foreign Jeep to a degree) making a killing in China. But I'm sensing some odd twisting here
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11-01-2012, 01:38 PM
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Sounds like the unions are aware they are the problem.
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You really should try to inform yourself about something before shooting off your mouth.
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11-01-2012, 01:46 PM
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Wasilla is particularly incoherent today.
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11-01-2012, 01:48 PM
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You really should try to inform yourself about something before shooting off your mouth.
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I did inform myself, I read this post-
"The unions for Mercedes and BMW (IG Metall) haven't objected to some of their cars being built overseas (including in the non-union American South) because they believe it will help the companies they work for remain solvent."
Unions believe non-union plants will help keep their companies afloat. Yup, sounds like the unions know they are the problem.
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11-01-2012, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
I did inform myself, I read this post-
"The unions for Mercedes and BMW (IG Metall) haven't objected to some of their cars being built overseas (including in the non-union American South) because they believe it will help the companies they work for remain solvent."
Unions believe non-union plants will help keep their companies afloat. Yup, sounds like the unions know they are the problem.
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IG Metall has agreed with the German manufacturers opening plants overseas as they believe it will help the companies remain profitable and help them keep their union jobs. I think IG Metall is largely agnostic about whether the plants overseas are unionized or not.
That said, if I were a foreign company opening a plant in the US, I would do my best to locate it in a place free from the UAW.
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11-01-2012, 02:41 PM
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Unions believe non-union plants will help keep their companies afloat. Yup, sounds like the unions know they are the problem.
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No, the German trade unions recognize that expanding into other countries is good for the health of their employers. Union vs. non-union isn't really an issue because they recognize that unionization is a highly variable thing in other countries.
Again, inform yourself about German unions. They are organized differently, are more enmeshed in corporations, including having seats on the Boards of many companies - by law- and are an integral part of the success and health of the German economy and industry.
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11-01-2012, 06:06 PM
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No, the German trade unions recognize that expanding into other countries is good for the health of their employers. Union vs. non-union isn't really an issue because they recognize that unionization is a highly variable thing in other countries.
Again, inform yourself about German unions. They are organized differently, are more enmeshed in corporations, including having seats on the Boards of many companies - by law- and are an integral part of the success and health of the German economy and industry.
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They sure are organized differently, the trade union leaders are in bed with the corporations. Works a hell of a lot better (for the company) than here.
Do you know why you don't often see German union workers on strike? They gave away the right to strike.
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11-01-2012, 06:15 PM
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They sure are organized differently, the trade union leaders are in bed with the corporations. Works a hell of a lot better (for the company) than here.
Do you know why you don't often see German union workers on strike? They gave away the right to strike.
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Says who?
http://www.just-auto.com/news/ig-met..._id122604.aspx
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11-01-2012, 06:27 PM
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Do you know why you don't often see German union workers on strike? They gave away the right to strike.
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Like I said, you need to do a little studying before shooting your mouth off.
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