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Old 11-18-2022, 10:29 AM
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"Election integrity"

A state senator from West Michigan, who made election integrity a key issue in his reelection campaign, is under criminal investigation after allegations of signature fraud were made against him in late 2016, the Michigan Secretary of State’s Office has confirmed.

On Nov. 7, 2016, Clerk Jennifer Badgero in Newaygo County’s Brooks Township filed a report with Michigan State Police alleging state Sen. Jon Bumstead (R-Newaygo) forged absentee ballots at least twice.


https://www.rawstory.com/state-offic...-gop-lawmaker/

Why is it that the party who has made such a big deal of "election integrity" is the one whose officials are the ones always implicated in election fraud (or whose President and other GOP officials are currently under a serious grand jury investigation in GA for efforts to steal an election)?
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:46 AM
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Dishonest accusations signal general dishonesty.
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Old 12-08-2022, 05:07 PM
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A state senator from West Michigan, who made election integrity a key issue in his reelection campaign, is under criminal investigation after allegations of signature fraud were made against him in late 2016, the Michigan Secretary of State’s Office has confirmed.

On Nov. 7, 2016, Clerk Jennifer Badgero in Newaygo County’s Brooks Township filed a report with Michigan State Police alleging state Sen. Jon Bumstead (R-Newaygo) forged absentee ballots at least twice.


https://www.rawstory.com/state-offic...-gop-lawmaker/

Why is it that the party who has made such a big deal of "election integrity" is the one whose officials are the ones always implicated in election fraud (or whose President and other GOP officials are currently under a serious grand jury investigation in GA for efforts to steal an election)?
From your linked article:

“The key language we based this decision on was, “a person who forges a signature…” Case law and the forgery statutes require an intent to defraud,” noted Becker in the email. “There is no intent to defraud here. He is simply attempting to assist his daughter in filling out an absentee ballot when she is unable to and doing so at her direction. The proper thing happened when the ballot was to be counted, it was invalidated, but this does not make it a crime.”

Sure sounds like a someone who deserves 20 years in the state penitentiary. Lock him up now!
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Old 12-08-2022, 05:18 PM
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I know how you scour the news sites looking for evidence of election fraud, so I'm surprised you missed this one:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/polit...ced/index.html

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Expelled former Democratic congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers has been sentenced to 30 months in prison for federal election fraud dating back to 2014, the Justice Department said Tuesday, and was immediately taken into custody.

Myers, 79, pleaded guilty in June to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election as part of scams to stuff ballot boxes for certain Democratic candidates in Pennsylvania elections between 2014 and 2018, the DOJ said in a news release.
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Old 12-08-2022, 05:19 PM
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If it is proven he signed her name.........broke the law!
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Old 12-08-2022, 05:52 PM
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I know how you scour the news sites looking for evidence of election fraud, so I'm surprised you missed this one:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/polit...ced/index.html

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You do realize that the loudest voice in the whole election integrity debate is Donald Trump, himself under federal and state investigation for conspiracy to defraud America/Georgia in the 2020 election, don't ya? And that virtually his entire legal team who took Trump's election fraud accusations to court is involved in disbarment proceedings?

One would think that you'd realize by now that conservative politicians are noisiest about the very issues that they themselves are the most guilty of (election fraud, profligate spending, fake news, support for the constitution, child sexual abuse ...). Every accusation is a confession.
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:41 PM
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The pattern is unmistakable: Cases from Gov. Ron DeSantis’ election crimes office keep ending up in court, and as The Miami Herald reported, they keep collapsing.

A Miami judge has tossed out another voter fraud case brought by Gov. Ron DeSantis’ elections police, the third case to fall apart since the governor announced the arrests. On Wednesday, Circuit Judge Laura Anne Stuzin reached the same conclusion as another Miami judge did in a different voter’s case, saying that statewide prosecutors didn’t have the ability to bring charges against Ronald Lee Miller.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...part-rcna60937

It seems to me that the real fraud here is DeSantis himself. He had claimed “mission accomplished” for his “election integrity” campaign back in August.
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It's all part ot the doing something without doing something campaign. A suitable campaign when seeking the local or federal office of your choice.
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Jury selection started today in the trial of 33-year-old Douglass Mackey, a man who prolifically spread hate and politically charged disinformation under the pseudonym “Ricky Vaughn” during Donald Trump’s political rise.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) charged Mackey with election interference in January 2021, accusing him of a conspiracy to spread “misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote.” The DOJ leveled these charges in connection with a November 2016 stunt in which Mackey encouraged people to vote for Hillary Clinton by text message by disseminating an online flyer.

The online flyer Mackey distributed featured images of a Black person in front of an “African Americans for [Hillary Clinton]” sign, urging voters to text in their votes. Nearly 5,000 people fell for Mackey’s detailed ploy, according to the DOJ’s press release.


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ng-faces-trial
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Jury selection started today in the trial of 33-year-old Douglass Mackey, a man who prolifically spread hate and politically charged disinformation under the pseudonym “Ricky Vaughn” during Donald Trump’s political rise.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) charged Mackey with election interference in January 2021, accusing him of a conspiracy to spread “misinformation designed to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote.” The DOJ leveled these charges in connection with a November 2016 stunt in which Mackey encouraged people to vote for Hillary Clinton by text message by disseminating an online flyer.

The online flyer Mackey distributed featured images of a Black person in front of an “African Americans for [Hillary Clinton]” sign, urging voters to text in their votes. Nearly 5,000 people fell for Mackey’s detailed ploy, according to the DOJ’s press release.


https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ng-faces-trial
Waiting for someone around here to say those people that fell for Mackey’s detailed ploy should've known better. Selectively forgetting about the sheep who believed the lies FAUX news* (that isn't news) told them.
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