The Copenhagen meeting

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Seriously, though, the problem isn't capitalism. Capitalism's fine. It's unregulated capitalism that causes problems.

Why don't people understand this John?

It is very frustrating to see my fellow countrymen fail to recognize this distinction.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

I apply logic and reason.

When?

[piece-itpete]

So how much regulation is enough? Folks are decrying the lack of manufacturing here and at the same time arguing for higher taxes and more regulatory burden and government interference!

And it is interference, unless some bureaucrat can make business decisions better than some guy who's been in business for years.

Government takes care of itself, is greedy and powerhungry.

The CO2 is a good example. We all exhale CO2 - we are apparently toxic and need to be regulated for our own good.

Pete

[HatchetJack]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Ok let me understand this.
You are concerned about manufacturing jobs yet support the party that is synonymous with big business and big business is the one that is shutting down manufacturing here in order to source overseas, right?

What's wrong with this picture?

What's wrong with this picture is that your point of view sent them packing
in the first place. But go ahead, bite the hand that feeds you.

[HatchetJack]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I wonder just how many of the posters here have actually been in any European countries for extended periods? I suspect the disparagement of their lifestyles and economies comes from the same sources as all of the so called failings of Canada's single Payer plan.

Having lived in Canada for 53 years and having travelled extensively in Europe I think I am in a good position to judge the quality of life in many of those countries, and frankly the jingoism of "only in America" is getting rather old. I did not see any poor people in The Netherlands, or Denmark, or Germany, even France and Britain seemed to have people who, while less well off, were adequately fed and housed.

Of course we could apply that phrase to the unfettered capitalism that nearly brough down the whole world economy. Odd though how Canada's banks did not need propping up, could it be that their mortgage system actually works? You do know who the TD in TDAmeritrade really is don't you?

When laws are truly designed to provide fair and equal treatment it is a win-win situation. When they are designed to enrich one group at the expense of all the others collapse is inevitable.

I respect your opinion Merrylander but could it be that these countries you
refer to have a lot less "baggage" than ours? Lets go roundup a few million
of our no gooders and ship them up to Canada or Denmark and see how well they make out.

[piece-itpete]

They (most other 1st world countries) also lean on us for national security. Since we pay for it they have more money to spend.

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I respect your opinion Merrylander but could it be that these countries you
refer to have a lot less "baggage" than ours? Lets go roundup a few million
of our no gooders and ship them up to Canada or Denmark and see how well they make out.

Ever wonder why we have no-gooders and they don't? Maybe what you call baggage they simply reclaimed.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

They (most other 1st world countries) also lean on us for national security. Since we pay for it they have more money to spend.

Pete

Seems to me the Japanese want our air base gone, maybe others feel the same way. Canada had a whole ground support squdron or two in Germany. Unfortunately they were flying F-104 widowmakers since Diefenbaker decided Canada would not be a nuclear power and converted the F-104s from delivering tactical nuke to flying ground support, hence the name widowmaker.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

What's wrong with this picture is that your point of view sent them packing
in the first place. But go ahead, bite the hand that feeds you.

what sent them packing was not wanting to pay you a fair wage.

Fact.

[noonereal]

What regulations are causing this corporate greed?

Which business is the government interested in making decisions for?

LMAO, come on. That's just plain silly. There is no force on the planet more greedy than American big business.

Sarah would be proud

not one accurate statement