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Old 06-01-2022, 08:12 AM
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
One might ask, "what is the stated purpose of the 2nd amendment in the era of standing uniformly trained and armed defenses"?
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:20 AM
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Was this a right granted to secure a nation, or the states individually?
Wording seems deliberately aimed at the security of states, "security" undefined. I suppose it leaves it to the state's to define whatever they deem security as an enumerated right. Perhaps a right to armed insurrection against due process to secure their "rights" as they see them.
Federal authority can be tyrranical, or the defense against local authoritarian tyranny.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:44 AM
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That well regulated militia is something that doesn't exist in this country in today's world. If the gubmint deems you too dangerous to have around they're going to come at you with enough force to solve the problem. The White folk aren't going to join you and rise up against "the government" either. If the Fed gubmint doesn't think you're worth the trouble they leave you alone. Now as far as a foreign adversary invading. Really?
This Second Amendment "need" for a well armed militia excuse for having guns is malarkey Just as much as that slippery slope to taking all our guns fearmongering. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-gun I'm just anti-NRA influencing the government against the will of the people.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:58 PM
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Was this a right granted to secure a nation, or the states individually?
Wording seems deliberately aimed at the security of states, "security" undefined.
In part, it was written to appease the soldiers who had fought in the American Revolution and then did not get paid for their service as promised.

It only secured the Federal Government from an armed mutiny against it, after the Revolutionary army had been disbanded.

States also had to defend themselves against Native Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...g-fathers-did/
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Old 06-02-2022, 05:42 AM
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At the time of the writing of the 2nd. The cost of keeping and maintaining a standing army being considered. Beyond the means of this expanding country to maintain. Hence the need and want for a citizen militia. One to be controlled by the state and local government in times of need.

Not anything like the dress up wanna be Rambo's playing Billy Bad @ss.
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Old 06-02-2022, 07:22 AM
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Angry ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING, this time in Tulsa

Four People Killed in Shooting at Tulsa Medical Center

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A man carrying a rifle and a handgun opened fire in a medical office building in Tulsa, Okla., on Wednesday afternoon
Waiting for some idiot Repube to call for arming hospital workers now.
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Old 06-02-2022, 08:08 AM
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Our founding fathers rebelled against the English Crown because they didn't want to pay taxes.

Then they didn't pay the soldiers for their effort.

It's ironic that the first action of the standing Federal Army, once it was established, was to act as revenuers. They went after moonshiners to collect taxes.
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Old 06-02-2022, 01:27 PM
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Just imagine if they had representation for their taxation.
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The implication now is that you need to be armed to give yourself a chance.
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Old 06-02-2022, 02:11 PM
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Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?
Research suggests it's largely because they're anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market and beset by racial fears

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ckpiling-guns/

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These are men who are anxious about their ability to protect their families, insecure about their place in the job market, and beset by racial fears. They tend to be less educated. For the most part, they don’t appear to be religious—and, suggests one study, faith seems to reduce their attachment to guns. In fact, stockpiling guns seems to be a symptom of a much deeper crisis in meaning and purpose in their lives. Taken together, these studies describe a population that is struggling to find a new story—one in which they are once again the heroes.
IOW, MAGAMorons.
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