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12-03-2016, 01:40 PM
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"Repeal and Replace" becomes ...
... "Repeal and Delay."
WASHINGTON — Republicans in Congress plan to move almost immediately next month to repeal the Affordable Care Act, as President-elect Donald J. Trump promised. But they also are likely to delay the effective date so that they have several years to phase out President Obama’s signature achievement.
This emerging “repeal and delay” strategy, which Speaker Paul D. Ryan discussed this week with Vice President-elect Mike Pence, underscores a growing recognition that replacing the health care law will be technically complicated and could be politically explosive...
...It is not sheer coincidence that at least one idea envisions putting the effective date well beyond the midterm congressional elections in 2018.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/us...re-repeal.html
So, they'll repeal it and promise an eventual great replacement (without details), but only after the midterms. In other words, they know full well how hard it will be to do this and how their changes will likely piss off or punish many voters. You'd think that after 6 years and over 50 "repeal and replace" votes in Congress that they'd actually have a better idea about what a replacement should look like. It seems that governing is going to be a lot harder than rabble-rousing in the House.
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12-03-2016, 02:10 PM
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They may just be not wanting to rush in order to get it right this time.
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12-03-2016, 02:36 PM
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Works for me.
The sooner Obummercare is repealed the sooner we will be on the road to Medicare for all.
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12-03-2016, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Works for me.
The sooner Obummercare is repealed the sooner we will be on the road to Medicare for all.
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I actually agree with you on this one, at least some sort of single payer comprehensive health care plan.
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12-03-2016, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Works for me.
The sooner Obummercare is repealed the sooner we will be on the road to Medicare for all.
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House Speaker Paul D. Ryan made clear Thursday that he is willing to pursue a major overhaul of Medicare, including changes that could eventually put private companies in charge of the health care for tens of millions of American seniors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-already-wary/
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12-03-2016, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan made clear Thursday that he is willing to pursue a major overhaul of Medicare, including changes that could eventually put private companies in charge of the health care for tens of millions of American seniors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-already-wary/
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Last time I checked, Trump was President-elect, not Ryan.
But you let me know if that changes, OK Finn?
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12-03-2016, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan made clear Thursday that he is willing to pursue a major overhaul of Medicare, including changes that could eventually put private companies in charge of the health care for tens of millions of American seniors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-already-wary/
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as much as I like the single payer option this is more than likely what we will get, more of the same. they are already talking about raising rates on pre-existing conditions if you let your insurance lapse..
TJ remember, administrative, legislative and judicial...Trump is not going to be completely his own man, the boys he is appointing will make sure of that!
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12-03-2016, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68custom
as much as I like the single payer option this is more than likely what we will get, more of the same. they are already talking about raising rates on pre-existing conditions if you let your insurance lapse..
TJ remember, administrative, legislative and judicial...Trump is not going to be completely his own man, the boys he is appointing will make sure of that!
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Agreed. There's no feckin' way Trump and a GOP Congress is going to pass Medicare for all. Jeez.
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12-03-2016, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Works for me.
The sooner Obummercare is repealed the sooner we will be on the road to Medicare for all.
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That is about the stupidest thing I have ever read here in PC. Are you really that naive?
Well I guess that is a stupid question.
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12-03-2016, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 68custom
as much as I like the single payer option this is more than likely what we will get, more of the same. they are already talking about raising rates on pre-existing conditions if you let your insurance lapse..
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I never said what the GOP would propose would be better.
All I said was that this would put us on the road to Medicare for all.
The sooner the current system collapses, the sooner we will get there.
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Originally Posted by 68custom
TJ remember, administrative, legislative and judicial...Trump is not going to be completely his own man, the boys he is appointing will make sure of that!
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Those "boys" are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Trump is going to be in charge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK-XOLU4JuE
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Agreed. There's no feckin' way Trump and a GOP Congress is going to pass Medicare for all. Jeez.
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No shit Sherlock. And I never said they would.
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Originally Posted by icenine
That is about the stupidest thing I have ever read here in PC. Are you really that naive?
Well I guess that is a stupid question.
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You're the one who thought Hillary was going to win in a landslide.
So whose stupid now?
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