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Old 09-24-2010, 02:19 AM
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This is indeed disgusting behaviour, and shouldn't be tolerated. Factories are dangerous places as it is, throw alcohol and/or drugs into the mix and you are putting your life and the lives of others on the line.

We recently sent four guys from our maintenance department out for drug/alcohol testing over an incident involving improper rebuilding of a large centrifugal impeller type fan. The fan is similar in design to the fan in your vacuum cleaner only it is cast steel, four feet in diameter, driven by a 100hp motor and weighs several hundred pounds. Because they failed to properly pack the bearings in grease, the bearings became extremely hot, the pillow blocks (bearing housings) exploded sending chucks of cast iron flying over fifty feet. The impeller itself slammed into the side of it's housing, destroying it, but miraculously did not break through and leave the housing. The drive shaft, 5 inches in diameter and 4.5 feet long was bent like a noodle and you could see where the impeller twisted off of it. In short, someone could very easily have been killed, or grievously injured.

So far no positive test results have come back. But, all four men have been written up and warned. If anyone comes up positive, he's gone.

I can tell you guys, the type of behavior seen in that video is not limited to auto industry or union shops. I've worked in non-union plants and seen people snorting coke in the bathrooms, coming back from lunch stinking of beer, even finding places to sneak off to and get high-------inside the plant. I will say that it seems to be less commonplace now than it did say, twenty years ago, but it still happens.

The company I work for now is pretty good at prevention with simple rules against loitering in the parking lot, drug testing policies such as the one mentioned above, etc.
I only know of one incident of a man gettting caught with beer in his locker.

Personally, I don't see how anyone can do it. I have never gone to work drunk or high. I just can't function that way.

Not trying to downplay the behaviour, but to an extent I can see Dons point. Fox does politicize everything, and I mean everything. If a pidgeon shits on a clean statue it is somehow Obamas fault. If an alien spaceship should show up and start shooting death rays about, it'll be because the Democrats failed to secure the stratosphere. And don't give me that, "That's the Detroit style" horsehockey either. They do the same thing everywhere. I will uabashedly tell you I despise FoxNews and every single smug faced, self-righteous conspiracy theorist dickhead that works for them. (And most of their viewers as well.)


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Old 09-24-2010, 05:45 AM
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I will uabashedly tell you I despise FoxNews and every single smug faced, self-righteous conspiracy theorist dickhead that works for them. (And most of their viewers as well.)


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Old 09-24-2010, 09:30 AM
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If an alien spaceship should show up and start shooting death rays
wrong thread and the aliens are shooting disable rays not death rays
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:57 AM
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I have little patience with the MSM these days, look at all the coverage they gave to that nut case pastor in Florida. The Chattering Class blow everything far out of proportion. I recall when I used to watch CNN, Wolf Blitzer would decry the attention being paid to some whack job, then turn about and spend 20 minutes going over the same whack job.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:12 AM
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Like or love that reporter, he does a lot of good here in Detroit. He does his "problem solvers" bit and is regularly chasing down contractors who screwed customers.
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:00 AM
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.. If a pidgeon shits on a clean statue it is somehow Obamas fault. If an alien spaceship should show up and start shooting death rays about, it'll be because the Democrats failed to secure the stratosphere. ...
Are you trying to say it wouldn't be their fault?



The low paying jobs I had as a young man were filled with beer and drugs. The better, higher paying places - weren't.

Brock Yates mentions in one of his books that workers in a Chrysler plant in Youngstown liked to fool around, and were seen slapping trim on one handed, behind their backs, etc...

And my bud that worked in the Twinsburg stamping plant has some great stories about the drugs drinking drawing straws to see who was staying till closing time to clock out etc...

My dad worked a job in NYC. The HVAC guys on the roof had written right into their contract that they could have one beer with lunch. An enterprising local started selling these giant cans of beer to them.

By the end of the job the roof was littered with them

All that said piss tests are unfair to working men and I'll tell you why - an office guy and a warehouse guy hits a j at a weekend party.

Two weeks later, who's at risk of getting fired? The piss test is mandatory for a workplace accident. What's the chances of the office guy having a reportable accident vs the warehouse guy?

There is no way that it's a factor two weeks later. But the warehouse guy gets fired because he smushed a finger. And no workers comp!

A swab test reads back 2-4 days and is much more fair to the warehouse worker.

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Old 09-24-2010, 09:34 AM
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The low paying jobs I had as a young man were filled with beer and drugs. The better, higher paying places - weren't.
Excellent point.

Not only that but when I took a minimum wage guy and moved him to a $25 an hour guy he inevitably became a more responsible dedicated worker.
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:03 AM
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All that said piss tests are unfair to working men and I'll tell you why - an office guy and a warehouse guy hits a j at a weekend party.

Two weeks later, who's at risk of getting fired? The piss test is mandatory for a workplace accident.
Check your facts.

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