Those progressive Europeans.

[Fast_Eddie]

I'm confused- what are minarets? I thought they were those towers with the funny looking tops that were used to call the "faithful" to prayer. Are they actually a legal device that is somehow used as a justification for murder? I'm not sure how banning minarets would impact the application of a countries laws. I can build an alter and worship Satan but I'm pretty sure it doesn't make it legal for me to rape virgins.

I guess I find myself in the dissonant opinion that one can favor religious freedom and oppose murder.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

I'm confused- what are minarets? I thought they were those towers with the funny looking tops that were used to call the "faithful" to prayer. Are they actually a legal device that is somehow used as a justification for murder? I'm not sure how banning minarets would impact the application of a countries laws. I can build an alter and worship Satan but I'm pretty sure it doesn't make it legal for me to rape virgins.

I guess I find myself in the dissonant opinion that one can favor religious freedom and oppose murder.

Maybe the call to prayer has been outlawed too.

John

[piece-itpete]

No case? Not only does the immigration office require certain things (like a reason), but a GREAT video came out, showed the guy at a fundraiser calling Jews monkeys and pigs. Charming, caring guy that one

Ed I can see why whey passed the ban outside of strictly religous reasons, if you picture minarets going up everywhere suddenly it doesn't look like home anymore. Really, more of a zoning or construction issue. Not to say anti-muslim doesn't have anything to do with it but it passed at what, 57%?

Pete

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Ed I can see why whey passed the ban outside of strictly religous reasons, if you picture minarets going up everywhere suddenly it doesn't look like home anymore.

When I was a kid, there were billboards along the roads in rural Ohio. They would advertise Husman's Potato Chips, Skyline Chilli and Burger Beer. On a trip home, oh, several years ago, I took a trek out to the old homestead. Just to look around and see how it had changed. Boy, had it ever. Many (most?) of the billboards along the road to my small home town had been bought by local churches. All kinds of odd, offensive or unintelligable commentary on them. Didn't look much like more anymore. But I'd defend their right to post them.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

When I was a kid, there were billboards along the roads in rural Ohio. They would advertise Husman's Potato Chips, Skyline Chilli and Burger Beer. On a trip home, oh, several years ago, I took a trek out to the old homestead. Just to look around and see how it had changed. Boy, had it ever. Many (most?) of the billboards along the road to my small home town had been bought by local churches. All kinds of odd, offensive or unintelligable commentary on them. Didn't look much like more anymore. But I'd defend their right to post them.

There is a small church down the road in Brookeville (where Madison brought the government when my ancestors were burning down the WhiteHouse) and the pastor has quite a turn for words. I always try to slow down and read his latest on the small board out in front.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

No case? Not only does the immigration office require certain things (like a reason), but a GREAT video came out, showed the guy at a fundraiser calling Jews monkeys and pigs. Charming, caring guy that one

No, not a nice guy, but no case either. Calling Jews monkeys and pigs is certainly reprehensible but it isn't a crime.

If there were any substance to the terrorism accusations he would have been tried. If found guilty he would have been sentenced and imprisoned. Since none of that happened, it's safe to conclude that there was no case.

He was deported because he was deemed "undesirable". Deportation was second best to imprisonment.

There have been a number of cases where similar accusations have been leveled at Muslims. I can think of two in New York, one in New Jersey and one in Florida.

The two New York and the one New Jersey resulted in speedy trials and convictions, although the evidence in these cases was less than stellar.

The Florida case is really interesting. You should read up on it. The defendant is named Sami al Arian. He got royally screwed and he's still getting screwed.

John

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Al-Arian