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01-23-2014, 11:10 PM
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Where in this is it chauvinistic? Be specific. He repeatedly says it does not make the female inferior, or a servant, or a slave.
It does match what is said in the Bible. Men and women have different roles.
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'You are not inferior. You're just supposed to do as I say.'
Sorry, wanting to make this argument is chauvinistic, to the core.
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01-23-2014, 09:29 AM
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Pete 40% of American households are headed by women (if I am wrong correct me).
How does it sound to them?
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01-23-2014, 09:43 AM
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It would be different, but nobody's forcing anything.
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01-23-2014, 10:05 AM
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It would be different, but nobody's forcing anything.
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Yet.
Besides, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that with some issues, direct force is not necessary, no legislation need be passed. All it takes is acceptance and endorsement of abhorrent behavior to legitimize it.
I've posted this article to Facebook for all the females in my life to peruse. I'll post their responses for you to examine.
Also; In my opinion, just because it comes from a so-called "Holy Book" doesn't mean it isn't garbage. But, that's just me. I'm not big on mindless sanctimony.
Dave
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01-23-2014, 10:15 AM
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Thanks, I look forward to it. I just don't get the 'abhorrent' aspect.
Pete
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01-23-2014, 10:18 AM
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Thanks, I look forward to it. I just don't get the 'abhorrent' aspect.
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I noticed that.
Did you see Barbaras restrained response?
More to come, but it might not be nearly as polite.
Dave
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01-23-2014, 10:16 AM
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Right. The wife is to "voluntarily submit",Biblethumoing rightwinger show us just how full of cra he is. but this doesn't mean she's inferior in any way......
Typical Republican doublespeak.
In order for there to be a submissive wife the husband assumes dominance. How else?
Either he's stupid or he thinks we are.
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01-23-2014, 10:57 AM
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To each their own, I know Debbie looks to me for certain things and I to her. I didn't tell her she had to be that way. Man was made from dirt, woman, flesh. And sometimes, it's impossible to have a democracy with only 2 votes.
This is the text, King James, Ephesians 5:
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Pete
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01-23-2014, 11:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
To each their own, I know Debbie looks to me for certain things and I to her. I didn't tell her she had to be that way. Man was made from dirt, woman, flesh. And sometimes, it's impossible to have a democracy with only 2 votes.
This is the text, King James, Ephesians 5:
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
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01-23-2014, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
To each their own, I know Debbie looks to me for certain things and I to her. I didn't tell her she had to be that way. Man was made from dirt, woman, flesh. And sometimes, it's impossible to have a democracy with only 2 votes.
This is the text, King James, Ephesians 5:
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
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Well Paul had a perfect right to his own opinion but does he not contardict himself in the bolded red text/ How can one body submit itself to itself.
Oh and by the way Paul is not the Lord.
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