Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Blocked.

It's all about the economy, and how the public perceives the healthcare thing imo.

Gosh, for a party that was finished in 08 we're really causing you guys a lot of trouble

Pete

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[piece-itpete]

Biden, Petraeus (interesting), Giuliani?, Ron Paul??!

I vote Santa Claus

Pete

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by finnbow

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Sarah Palin +1000
Joe Biden +1500
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Mike Huckabee +1500
Tim Pawlenty +2000
Charlie Crist +2500
David Petraeus +4000
John McCain +5000
Mark Sanford +4000
Newt Gingrich +4000
Condoleeza Rice +2000
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Jeb Bush +2000
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so, other than Obie, Sarah and Hillary are the favs.

I'd love to see these two run against each other.

It would be the ultimate catfight.

They would clearly bring out the worst in each other.

[CarlV]

Hillary would make Sarah cry lol.



Today's news:

Blue Shield of California is seeking another round of rate hikes that would mean a cumulative increase averaging over 30 percent over a five-month span for nearly 200,000 policy holders, reports Wednesday said.
The latest hike was set to take effect March 1 pending approval from California regulators, to go with other increases that took place Oct. 1 and Jan. 1, the Los Angeles Times reported.
The San Francisco-based insurer blames the new rates on rising health care costs.
"We raise rates only when absolutely necessary to pay the accelerating cost of medical care for our members," the company told customers last month.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz1AHzybbmg

Yeah, sure mac.

[merrylander]

The paper said this was one of the better years and that costs had only risen 4%.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by merrylander

The paper said this was one of the better years and that costs had only risen 4%.

The problem is that they now have to pay 80% of the premiums toward health care costs, and they want to make their 20% bigger.

Regards,

D-Ray

[CarlV]

I know it has been 70% here. VA does administrative costs for 7% like the rest of the world, private industry 20-30%, and then some want to tell me the government can't do anything efficiently and expect me to believe it?
Yeah, sure mac.

[Charles]

Government health insurance.

I favor single payer, (my lib buddy looked at me like I had two heads when I told him this...he had preconcieved notions), but we may as well come to the conclusion that it will have to be a two tiered system.

Basic healthcare for all, you can see a pill roller, if your appendix has to go, so be it.

Half a mill liver transplants, bone marrow transplants, things like that, I'm not so sure about. People need to come the the realization that they're going to die, and life ain't fair.

Personally, I have less fear of dying than letting the sawbones TRY to fix me.

If the rich want to be rebuilt as many time as my old Dodge, that's fine with me.

I only hope that when I've played my last card the game ends quickly. Or being stuck in a nursing home QUICKLY draining the assets of my loved ones. Or even the taxpayer...I don't deserve it.

And should I go to the grave without so much as a cul-de-sac named after me...does it really matter?

Homo sapiens are probably the most disposable asset of the Planet Earth.

Problem is, we're too smart to realize it.

Hell, we think we're important!!!

Chas

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Charles

Government health insurance.

I favor single payer, (my lib buddy looked at me like I had two heads when I told him this...he had preconcieved notions), but we may as well come to the conclusion that it will have to be a two tiered system.

Basic healthcare for all, you can see a pill roller, if your appendix has to go, so be it.

Half a mill liver transplants, bone marrow transplants, things like that, I'm not so sure about. People need to come the the realization that they're going to die, and life ain't fair.

i.e., Death Panels.

Of course this is essential to affordable health care. However, it's such a volatile issue that it would provide the necessary ammo for opponents to kill the reform without breaking a sweat.

Remember Terry Schiavo?

[Charles]

Originally Posted by finnbow

i.e., Death Panels.

Of course this is essential to affordable health care. However, it's such a volatile issue that it would provide the necessary ammo for opponents to kill the reform without breaking a sweat.

Remember Terry Schiavo?

I remember...one of the most disgusting examples of assholes butting into someone elses business I've ever seen.

I can see why our masters travel in armored limousines.

Had anyone done that to me, they would have damn well needed one.

Chas