Social Security - Page 3

icenine · #21 03-21-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

Am not. The New Deal was a minimalist appeasement to keep the mob from rebellion and as Pio pointed out FDR was a great salesman. He was also a great leader and it was our dominant position at the end of WWII and the myth of that and our post war dominance, not New Deal SS, that provided your cement.

Yeah whatever. You are on SS or will be soon. And we will never get rid of it nor Medicare.

nailer · #22 03-21-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

I knew you couldn't do it.

You're correct. I'm unable to humor you.

Pio1980 · #23 03-21-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion

Yeah I would not trust school boards with SS.

Particularly Texas schoolboards. Kansas might run a close second.

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nailer · #24 03-21-2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Yeah whatever. You are on SS or will be soon. And we will never get rid of it nor Medicare.

No I'm not, nor will I be unless Congress makes my pension part of SS.

Dondilion · #25 03-21-2016, 11:00 AM

Deals which were friendly to the common man.

Promotion of unions.

Fair Labor Act.

Large government employment.

SSA

Help to tenant farmers and migrant laborers.

Boreas · #26 03-21-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

No I'm not, nor will I be unless Congress makes my pension part of SS.

What's the point of your second sentence? It has nothing to do with my pointing our what the New Deal was.

As I said before, it was revolutionary. Part of your problem seems to be a failure to view the New Deal in context. Nothing like it had ever been done before or even tried and the results were spectacularly successful.

icenine · #27 03-21-2016, 11:10 AM

Plus he is ignorant of Roosevelt's genuine feeling for those not as well off as he was.

And whether or the New Deal worked or not is not really the point.

nailer · #28 03-21-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion

Deals which were friendly to the common man.

Promotion of unions.

Fair Labor Act.

Large government employment.

SSA

Help to tenant farmers and migrant laborers.

You can be friendly without being a friend.

nailer · #29 03-21-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

As I said before, it was revolutionary. Part of your problem seems to be a failure to view the New Deal in context. Nothing like it had ever been done before or even tried and the results were spectacularly successful.

The deals being made in parts of Europe were revolutionary.

Now we're looking at paying the price of the New Deal not being a good deal unless something revolutionary occurs soon.

Boreas · #30 03-21-2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer

The deals being made in parts of Europe were revolutionary.

I guess you're talking about the rise of fascism or perhaps the consolidation of power by the Soviets. These are false equivalencies at best and completely irrelevant at worst. But then that's your stock in trade here.

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Now we're looking at paying the price of the New Deal not being a good deal unless something revolutionary occurs soon.

Evolutionary, not revolutionary. It's need for periodic updating or tweaking is no reason to denigrate Social Security. No program can be expected to exist in its original form over a long period of time. Social Security is over 80 years old.