healthcare outrage

[Grumpy]

Originally Posted by Charles

Ever notice that vultures don't circle something that's not rotten?

Chas

Americans need to take a large whiff cause it stinks to high heaven.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by stereocuuple

What has the Obama administration done to reverse the damage done to our rights by the last one? I don't see him giving back the power that Bush grabbed, or maybe I am missing something.

The wiretapping was a big outrage when the people found out about it, and served its purpose as a campaign issue. Rights that are lost, or trampled over are rarely given back to us. It has been left alone since the election mostly because it was easy to demonize Bush for it but once the new admin got in office did they put a stop to it? I sincerely doubt it.

Regards,
Erin

Again, this all goes back to our method of government, look what awaited an incoming president regardless of who had one.

1. Deal with the economic mess
2. Fix healthcare simply because if we continue the way we are going no one will be able to afford it
3. Appoint a new cabinet and get the idiots in the Senate to "advise and consent".
4. appoint somewhere in the neighbourhood of 6 or 7 thousand new assistants to the assistant.
5. Attend world leader meetings.
6. Try and come up with proposals that see to it that Wall Street does not go FUBAR again.
7. etc., etc.

As long as he does not do all the rotten things that were being done before I am content, what was the poem

"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, someday you will be a man my son" or something like that.

I won't pretend to have all the answers all I know is despite catastrophic health insurance (yeah, we have it) if I were to get a serious illness they would likely throw my wife out into the street just so some effing hospital can get paid. And they would plug me into every expensive machine they have just for the $$$$.

[wajobu]

8 years of the clowns in the White House not dealing with reality is far too long enough (the list is too long to recount). Complain all you want SC, but the mess that they created due to their avarice and incompetence is so vast we'll probably never dig out.

Most of the folks complaining about the healthcare change don't pay one red cent directly out of their pockets so they have not a clue how broken the system really is. All of the complainers don't realize how much of their lives and their paychecks are funded by government programs...I'd be happy to cut them off and see how long they last. They want limited government, low taxes...great...we'll take away Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, funding the military, the VA and everything else...no more bridges, roads, rail lines, etc. You name it..create your own perfect world and live in it.

The Conservatives and complainers are hypocrites...remarkable...their version of Town Meetings was to have invited guest supporters and not allow dissenters..labelled unpatriotic and unAmerican...now we have public meetings with all-comers...agree or disagree, there they are...shouting their vitriol, hatred, bigotry and fear of reality.

The last regime was an oppressive, subversive and a deceptive pack of liars, cheats and thieves. Time to clean-house...it'll be painful, but things must be corrected.

My insurance has increased in price 240% in the last 8 years, for far less coverage than we started with, and enormous deductibles...next year's increase will be 24-33%--hardly a competitive private enterprise system...next year my insurance cost (monthly) will exceed my mortgage payment (monthly)...I'm all for a private system, but there must be stiff regulations imposed on rates, costs and management so the likes of Rick Scott will stop defrauding the government and the taxpayers of billions of dollars while he lives like a king.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwjcx...layer_embedded

I'm happy to pay out of pocket for my healthcare, but I'm not happy to pay crooks to get rich and put the rest of us in the poor house.

[Grumpy]

Not sure I agree with silencing those at the town hall meetings. They have the same freedoms of speech and should be allowed to speak their piece but I do feel it should not be over the person/persons hosting the meeting.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Again, this all goes back to our method of government, look what awaited an incoming president regardless of who had one.

1. Deal with the economic mess
2. Fix healthcare simply because if we continue the way we are going no one will be able to afford it
3. Appoint a new cabinet and get the idiots in the Senate to "advise and consent".
4. appoint somewhere in the neighbourhood of 6 or 7 thousand new assistants to the assistant.
5. Attend world leader meetings.
6. Try and come up with proposals that see to it that Wall Street does not go FUBAR again.
7. etc., etc.



As long as he does not do all the rotten things that were being done before I am content, what was the poem

"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, someday you will be a man my son" or something like that.

I won't pretend to have all the answers all I know is despite catastrophic health insurance (yeah, we have it) if I were to get a serious illness they would likely throw my wife out into the street just so some effing hospital can get paid. And they would plug me into every expensive machine they have just for the $$$$.

You know what, the sawbones murdered my father - in -law. '70's something years old, he needed a pacemaker, but they talked him into five bi-passes (didn''t know you could do FIVE". But his insurance was as good as gold.

The only way the tough old bastard made it for as long as he did was because he was deterimined not to die in the hospital.

Came home on an afternoon, died that evening.

I'll just say one thing. I would rather die impaled on a steering column, drunker than Cooter Brown, than to die in a hospital.

Being born is one thing, dying is about a personal as it gets. And I don't much care how I die , to a certain extent...ain't into pain...long as it ain't in a hospital.

If the do gooders come for me, I WILL use them to light my way to the New World.

And that's a fact, Jack...don't fuck with me....


Chas

BTW, for any UPLIFTERS who may be monitering this thread...you've been forewarned.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by stereocuuple

Was this your vague attempt at some kind of stereotype?

LOL, it seemed pointless in me answering a post that proposes revolution before health coverage to all so I just respond with something mundane.
Quick question about Kansas City however, why is the airport so far from downtown?
Such great restaurants and entertainment, so far from the planes???

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Not sure I agree with silencing those at the town hall meetings. They have the same freedoms of speech and should be allowed to speak their piece but I do feel it should not be over the person/persons hosting the meeting.

dissention and disruption are two different things.

[wajobu]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Not sure I agree with silencing those at the town hall meetings. They have the same freedoms of speech and should be allowed to speak their piece but I do feel it should not be over the person/persons hosting the meeting.

I'm not at all advocating silencing them, but if they think that the system is as broken as they say it is then they can do without (and all the govt programs that most of them probably take advantage of). Once they live without for a while we'll see how long it takes for them to come crawling back and asking for help..from the govt.

[Sandy G]

I'm like Woody Allen-I don't mind dying, I just don't wanna BE there when it happens...

[merrylander]

Why I am inclined to believe they were planted is because most of the seniors that I know are too polite to all start screaming at once.