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01-31-2018, 09:02 AM
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You never let being a turd get in the way of anything. For profit or not for profit companies is irrelevant in the case of your idiotic comment above. Neither is something that a political party would have any ability to undertake for purposes of pursuing technological innovations in the health care system.
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Innovations in health care are independent of the delivery of health care services, dimwit. Both my daughter and her husband are biomedical engineers involved in the design of pacemakers and renal implant devices, but their companies (Boston Scientific and Medtronic) don't deliver health care. For that matter, some of the greatest advances in modern medicine (e.g., medical imaging, advanced diagnostics, pharmaceuticals) have been done in Germany, a country with socialized medicine.
You are one confused puppy. Trump is fortunate to have logic-challenged lemmings like you on board with him, despite his manifest incompetence and corruption.
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01-31-2018, 09:31 AM
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Neither is something that a political party would have any ability to undertake for purposes of pursuing technological innovations in the health care system.
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Yet the current incompetent administration is making noises about nationalizing 5G. Yeah, that’ll work. And you will be right there leading the cheers. Moron.
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01-31-2018, 09:56 AM
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Innovations in health care are independent of the delivery of health care services, dimwit. Both my daughter and her husband are biomedical engineers involved in the design of pacemakers and renal implant devices, but their companies (Boston Scientific and Medtronic) don't deliver health care. For that matter, some of the greatest advances in modern medicine (e.g., medical imaging, advanced diagnostics, pharmaceuticals) have been done in Germany, a country with socialized medicine.
You are one confused puppy. Trump is fortunate to have logic-challenged lemmings like you on board with him, despite his manifest incompetence and corruption.
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BULLSHIT. Delivery of care is an absolute target for disruption and innovation as I've detailed in this thread. You're the confused puppy. Woof.
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01-31-2018, 11:49 AM
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BULLSHIT. Delivery of care is an absolute target for disruption and innovation as I've detailed in this thread. You're the confused puppy. Woof.
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Every country in the developed world already know hows to deliver health care at about half the price we do (and with better outcomes). We don't need to innovate in this area. We need to imitate.
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01-31-2018, 11:57 AM
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Not only half the price.... but with better outcomes.
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01-31-2018, 12:01 PM
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Not only half the price.... but with better outcomes.
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Fixed. Thanks.
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01-31-2018, 12:11 PM
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Innovation is code word for privatization.
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01-31-2018, 03:23 PM
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Every country in the developed world already know hows to deliver health care at about half the price we do (and with better outcomes). We don't need to innovate in this area. We need to imitate.
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Well, that was a spectacularly lame answer. Apparently you have no new ideas here, just use what works for the rest of the world. Never mind that they're no proof that copying - for example - Germany's health care system (a country you seem enamored with) would have any merit. Health care coverage (as in universal coverage) doesn't mean that it would be delivered in a cost effective manner in the US.
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01-31-2018, 05:09 PM
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Well, that was a spectacularly lame answer. Apparently you have no new ideas here, just use what works for the rest of the world. Never mind that they're no proof that copying - for example - Germany's health care system (a country you seem enamored with) would have any merit. Health care coverage (as in universal coverage) doesn't mean that it would be delivered in a cost effective manner in the US.
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I lived there 11 years, still have many friends there, and go back every 2-3 years.
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02-01-2018, 09:39 AM
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Innovation is code word for privatization.
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Therefore, "public" or "socialized" is a code word for regression.
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