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Old 08-20-2021, 06:44 PM
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Took the third shot of Pfizer. The pharmacist offered up this year's flu vax while I was waiting. The flu vax put me in bed for two days, that's still far better than getting the flu though.

I've had zero reaction to the Pfizer vax twice before so it follows that a third shot wasn't going to cause any adverse reaction. YMMV.
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:48 PM
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Congrats!

My arm was sore for a few days that was it this time.

Waiting to get the flu shot a few weeks now.
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Old 08-20-2021, 06:58 PM
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Congrats!

My arm was sore for a few days that was it this time.

Waiting to get the flu shot a few weeks now.
Thanks Barney.
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Old 08-21-2021, 03:06 PM
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10 Bullshit Reasons Not to get the COVID-19 Vaccine
Posted on August 5, 2021 by Greg Greenberg


1. I’m not sure if it’s safe.

Bullshit. Hundreds of millions of people have received this vaccine. Vaccine adverse events show up in days to months. We’ve had very close monitoring of these vaccines for over 7 months since it was released in addition to longer for that in studies. You know what isn’t safe? Fucking COVID.

2. I don’t know the long-term risks

Long-term bullshit. We have a long history with knowing the risks and safety of vaccines and we know the pitfalls. This isn’t thalidomide. This doesn’t alter your DNA. You don’t become a magnetic X-man. Don’t let political or ideological fear mongering steer you away from what the scientists know best – science.

3. I heard it wasn’t safe.

Ignorant bullshit. A survey by the AMA last month demonstrated that 96% of practicing physicians have received the vaccine. Why? Because we are trained in interpreting medical information, critical thinking, and understanding the prevention and treatment of diseases.

4. The government is using this to control us and is lying about its safety. Or big pharma is lying to us.

Paranoid bullshit. Remember that part about physicians getting the vaccine. You know who most physicians don’t trust? The fucking government and fucking big pharma. The government doesn’t control our communication and we actively communicate with each other on social media and in person. So, if we were seeing bad shit, we’d fucking tell each other.

5. COVID-19 is just like the flu.

Also ignorant bullshit. We know better by now. Some people get a more mild illness. Some people get really sick and have permanent issues. Some people die. More importantly, this impacts our hospitals so that the care for others suffers because of staffing shortages, long wait times and limited resources. People who present with other problems are more likely to die because of so many sick people in the hospital and this is worse than any bad flu season I’ve seen.

6. My body, my choice

Not bullshit. I totally get that. But didn’t you get vaccines to go to school? That’s because you can make your own misguided choices for yourself, but your misguided attempts at autonomy affects the health of others. Don’t be so fucking selfish and get vaccinated for the benefit of your family and your community. So, it’s really selfish bullshit.

7. I don’t want the government or my job controlling my medical choices

Selfish bullshit. Did you put your seatbelt on in your car? Does your car have an airbag? Did you taste DDT in your salad? Do you trust your medication to be what it says it is? That’s the fucking government saving your ass.

8. President Joe Biden and Gov. Gavin Newsom are using this for political gain.

Political conspiracy bullshit. Donald Trump touted the vaccine and facilitated it’s rapid development. He also quietly got the vaccine in January because he has smart people advising him. The physicians who have promoted the vaccine span political views. This is not a political issue, it’s public health.

9. The government pays doctors to diagnose COVID-19 and most people listed as dying from COVID actually died from something else.

Misinformed bullshit. I don’t remember receiving my bonus check for diagnosing COVID because that’s not how it fucking works. I diagnose COVID when someone has COVID . Also, that information was a complete misrepresentation of how death reporting works. If you die from the flu, there’s a good chance you had another condition like diabetes, heart disease, obesity, asthma, etc. You still died from the fucking flu. Those who died from COVID and had co-morbid conditions would have lived years or decades if they didn’t get COVID .

10. I just don’t want to.

Selfish, ignorant, lazy bullshit. Get the fucking vaccine.

COVID-19, Opinion COVID-19, Vaccine

GREG GREENBERG
Greg Greenberg grew up in Santa Monica, California. After undergraduate training at UCLA he attended medical school at Ohio State University and completed a residency in family medicine in Columbus, Ohio. He moved to Redding after residency in 2004 and has served the Redding community as a family physician, hospitalist, emergency physician, and, most recently, in addiction medicine. When he’s not enjoying the calm atmosphere of the emergency department he enjoys the chaos of being a full-time parent as well.

https://anewscafe.com/2021/08/05/red...id-19-vaccine/

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"I heard.....", "They're saying......", "Everybody knows.....".....

Any sentence that starts with those phrases is just a Pipers call for his stooges to get in formation.
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Old 08-23-2021, 08:03 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts

A relevant SCOTUS decision regarding compulsory vaccination.
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Old 08-30-2021, 09:39 AM
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Got tired for a couple days after the second Moderna shot........... That's it. Didn't miss a single day of work or anything. Slept a lot but didn't grow horns, didn't drop dead, didn't start compulsively quoting Chairman Mao or anything.

I am convinced these red state, far right people are just as dumb as a day is long. Clues abound that they are wrong all around them, yet they continue to argue and procrastinate. In fact, it seems the more they are proven wrong, the more relentlessly adamant they get.

Read a fascinating article about this very phenomenon recently, showing how fervent religious right wingers throughout history have been persecuting people with beatings, torture, witch hunts, excommunication, ostracizing, starting "Holy" wars, death camps, etc., etc., simply because someone dared to contradict them........

"Hey guys, the Earth isn't the center of the universe after all. Here, look at my data...", got Galileo into a world of shit and the damned church was wrong all along. Little has changed.

Insane isn't it?
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Today at 12:24 p.m. EDT

BRUSSELS — The European Union is recommending that its 27 member countries reinstate restrictions on American travelers, a change that would primarily affect unvaccinated people, as soaring rates of new coronavirus infections have made the United States a global pandemic hot spot.
All major airlines should join the Delta ban on the unvaccinated.

http://https://www.washingtonpost.co...-restrictions/
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Old 08-31-2021, 12:17 AM
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Duke University to employees - get vaccinated or get fired:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...253835668.html
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On the other side of the spectrum,

Liberty University Orders Campus-Wide Quarantine for COVID-19


No big loss imo. Understand they were following the Ron DeSantis Covid-19 protocol, no masks, not vaccinated, no problem.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...arantine-covid
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