Government Workers Now Outnumber Manufacturing Workers by 9,977,000

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by whell

Economic growth is flat, we're replacing manufacturing jobs, and higher paying jobs in general with lower wage jobs...

...so how is it that we can afford expanding gov't jobs?

Also, government is immune to inefficiencies that, for example, advancing technology might offer to managing labor costs? We just need "more gov't jobs " because we're at a 50 year low, regardless of the work that might or might now be available? Sounds like you want to bring back the secretarial pool with all the typewriters?

It is a huge dilemma. Government jobs offer reasonable salaries, benefits, and better security than what is generally available in the private sector.
However we must be wary of government ballooning.

How do we strike a balance is key and not the number of jobs in itself.

As to manufacturing jobs we have sold out so much to the Chinese that I
do not see too much hope there.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by whell

Its a pretty simple question, really. As our job market continues to churn out lower wage jobs, how is a rise in gov't payroll affordable?

The question should be how is it affordable not to increase government jobs.

If there were more government jobs, with their decent pay and benefit packages, employees would have an option, instead of being forced to take whatever shit employers offer them.

Employers would have to compete with government for employees. That would be a good thing.

[donquixote99]

The other thing we have been producing is very healthy increases in very high incomes. Guess how we're able to afford that?

Anyway, the question of how we afford such increases as there are in government employment therefore has an answer.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

No shit, nor is that even the point. I see you're unwilling to address the core issue so you can throw out unrelated lefty talking points.

Its a pretty simple question, really. As our job market continues to churn out lower wage jobs, how is a rise in gov't payroll affordable?

Ask FDR.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by whell

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/tere...orkers-9977000

The United States lost 9,000 manufacturing jobs in October while gaining 19,000 jobs in government, according to data released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Government employment grew from 22,216,000 in September to 22,235,000 in October, according to BLS, while manufacturing jobs dropped from 12,267,000 to 12,258,000.

The 22,235,000 employed by government in the United States now outnumber the 12,258,000 employed in manufacturing by 9,977,000.

Over the past year—from October 2015 to October 2016—manufacturing employment fell by 53,000, declining from 12,311,000 to 12,258,000. During the same period, government employment climbed 208,000, rising from 22,027,000 to 22,235,000.

A parting gift from the current administration. This is a trend that is absolutely unsustainable.

Are government employees hired on contract included in this 22 million?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by whell

No substantive response to the content of the post, huh?

Government employment has exploded under Republican administrations is my point.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No shit, nor is that even the point. I see you're unwilling to address the core issue so you can throw out unrelated lefty talking points.

Its a pretty simple question, really. As our job market continues to churn out lower wage jobs, how is a rise in gov't payroll affordable?

I thought all the wonderful GOP job creators would both pay their fair share of taxes and indeed create jobs, we'd be covered. I guess The Donald has shown has specious that premise is.

[Pio1980]

Encouraging commercial activity is the key to recovery. Employment by whatever reasonable means injects much needed capital into the process.

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[nailer]

Originally Posted by whell

No shit, nor is that even the point. I see you're unwilling to address the core issue so you can throw out unrelated lefty talking points.

Its a pretty simple question, really. As our job market continues to churn out lower wage jobs, how is a rise in gov't payroll affordable?

For now limitless borrowing capability.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by icenine

Government employment has exploded under Republican administrations is my point.

In Florida, when Jeb Bush took over he cut the number of FDOT's employees by 25% over a five year period.

At the same time he increased our "consultant" budget astronomically so that we could hire private firms to do what we used to do in house. Our overall expenditures ballooned. We had so much consultant money we had to have special meetings to try to brainstorm how we were going to spend it all.

We were also required to report all money spent for "consulting" under "production". That way our "productivity" went way up. It was such a fucking scam.