"If Stench calls, take a message."

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Funny how our neighbours to the north can afford universal heathcare and Old Age Pensions for all yet we, allegedly the richest country in the world with the best system extant, can't quite seem to manage it. Are we just stupid or what?

Here, we have people who will hand out tax cuts to people who don't need them, claim the resulting lack of revenues is proof of "failure" of said programs, then denounce these things as "so(c)ialism" and attempt to privatize them......which is contrary to the purpose of having such programs in the first place. Which is, of course, to keep them seperate from and free of market fluctuations and crashes.

Many of our Parents and Grandparents understood this. That's why they voted for men like FDR and Lyndon Johnson and protected SS and Medicare for so many years. After all, they got to see what happens in the real world when the market shits and push comes to shove between the haves and have-nots. But, my generation is full of Reaganite stooges who think the wealthy want to see that we have whatever we need. And they will not learn until the market crashes and they end up standing in line at the foodbank trailer, begging for table scraps or diving dumpsters. Because the rich don't really give a flying shit about any of us.

Regards,
Dave

[Boreas]

My landlady is French. Her mother is in an extended care facility back in France. Her care was entirely covered by the French national health care program until what I assume must have been a lifetime cap was met. She's now responsible for paying the entire amount.

$750.00 per month.

John

[piece-itpete]

Democrats - party of the status quo? But how long can the status quo last before we go broke?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Pete

[icenine]

I fear Romney and Ryan much more than the debt clock, which by the way a big chunk belongs to Bush. I do not understand you Pete....you did not seem to be upset about all the money wasted in the Middle East wars...which Ryan voted for. I guess you were happy Bush sent you that nice little government check back in 2003 or so...when he blew a mile wide hole in the deficit. Why is it so bad when Obama does it?

[piece-itpete]

The debt clock should chill to the bone, far more important than one man or party.

I don't consider the money spent in the ME as wasted, but an investment. And Obama makes Bush look like a paragon of thrift.

Pete

[CarlV]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The debt clock should chill to the bone, far more important than one man or party.

I don't consider the money spent in the ME as wasted, but an investment. And Obama makes Bush look like a paragon of thrift.

Pete

"Cheney, at this moment, shows his hand," says Suskind. "He says, 'You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due.'

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-592330.html





I got too dizzy from by the time Bush left office Pete.
The fact that we avoided second full scale depression means much more to me. Doesn't seem mean anything at all to you Republicans though.



Carl

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The debt clock should chill to the bone, far more important than one man or party.

I don't consider the money spent in the ME as wasted, but an investment. And Obama makes Bush look like a paragon of thrift.

Pete

When I invest money it is because I expect to get a return, make a modest profit. If you can actually demonstrate the rerurn or profit I will be astounded, and no doubt so will the families of the over 4000 wasted lives.

Iraq is corrupt as is Afghanistan, Iraq is playing footsie with Iran and nobody remembers a little country called Kurdistan in fact we even suggest they are terrorists because they want their country back, but we must not piss off Turkey.

The trillions pissed away in the ME are just that - pissed away, we might as well have bought junk bonds from Goldman Sachs.

[icenine]

As the old song says, it is a little too little, a little too late....he should have been saying this back in January during the primaries...

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...f-empathy?lite

[piece-itpete]

Not at all. We are the epitome of all evil and greed.

Pete

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Not at all. We are the epitome of all evil and greed.

Pete

Just vote the Democratic ticket and that stench washes right off, Pete.